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Old 12-06-2013, 10:06 AM   #15
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I just finished posting on another thread the KwH usage for the Samsung RF197 we have had since April 2012.

I had the Kill-O-Watt plugged in for 864 hours and it used 66KwH's for that period of time, part of October and all of November.

That works out to be 1.83 KW per day.

I'd like to see the Norcold beat those numbers when using electric. They can't even come close. and they still chew up your 12 VDC too.

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norcold will use around 26-28K per month assuming full time use so around 3.50$ verses around 1.25$ 12V power is virtually free and the amount the board uses is small
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:12 AM   #16
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What's really amusing is when Thom and I went to the big RVIA RV show just a few months ago we walked thru just about every new DP from quite a few different manufacturers and every single one had a residential fridge in them. GE, Frigidaire and Whirlpool in every single one. Not a Norcold or Dematic fridge to be found. Everyone once in a while I saw a Dematic microwave but even then it was the odd one out.
yes I agree u see residential fridges in most all new UPPER end diesel pushers
Most of theses units do not boon dock.These fridges are 1/3 the cost to the builder.less wiring and no extra gas lines etc. The public has accepted this as the norm now and the builders like it also,Saves costs and warrenty issues etc.Also I believe its has to do with the holding capacity of the straight electric.way bigger
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:20 AM   #17
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To me when I saw the Nevercold as the fridge,thought just like a lot of other things; the Camping World empire looks after the Camping World empire. Nevercold is one of their advertisers, Samsung isn't . Objective reviews? Me thinks, NOT!

P.S. Like someone else said. When this subscription expires for MH magazine I am done. Better info here.

P.P.S. I have had major problem with Nevercold, and the Amish unit, and love, love, love our Samsung. And no we didn't have a fire, but did have black on the roof plywood around the vent hole. Just say'n
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:28 AM   #18
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Iam on my 3rd diesel pusher in 8 years and all had 1200 Norcolds and all worked flawlessly
Never had one problem with any of them.Cool great in hot weather etc.I personally think their a great lpg fridge

I too have had good luck with my norcolds. To me having a motorhome enables us to go wherever we can get to. Its a sense of freedom to go wherever and whenever we want. we can last 8 days [showers included] before we need a hookup. try that with a residential fridg. you might as well reduce the size of the fresh water tanks and holding tanks on the rigs with the all electric fridge. No sense taking up all that room and wieght when all you can do is park where there are hookups. Probably off topic but fridges were mentioned
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:41 AM   #19
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Got my MH magazine today and they had the Readers Choice Awards. Did anyone notice the #1 refrigerator was Norcold, #2 Dometic, #3 Atwood. Am I missing something here? Where is Samsung?

Maybe the question was, #1 refrigerator to Catch Fire?
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Upper? The cost of the brand new RV's went anywhere from $100k to $500k and that was the dealer prices for the show so you could probably get them for less if you wanted to haggle.
We did not look at gas since Thom only wanted to look at DP's. So gas ones may have had them but the DP's did not have one absorption fridge, they were all electric fridges.
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I too have had good luck with my norcolds. To me having a motorhome enables us to go wherever we can get to. Its a sense of freedom to go wherever and whenever we want. we can last 8 days [showers included] before we need a hookup. try that with a residential fridg. you might as well reduce the size of the fresh water tanks and holding tanks on the rigs with the all electric fridge. No sense taking up all that room and wieght when all you can do is park where there are hookups. Probably off topic but fridges were mentioned
Since having our Samsung installed in April 2012, I estimate that we have camped OFF the grid about 35-40 days or more. The longest was 5 days. Most of them have been a day or two while traveling from one place to another. There are many people who can't be without the security of RV Park hookups but I bought this rig to be totally self sufficient in case of natural disasters or just getting away from all of the insane people living in this world.

So, we don't need any damn hookups to remain independent for days at a time. And we don't need to run the generator all the time either.

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We have the big 26 cu.ft Samsung in the S&B and it's the best frig we've ever had. We have an 8 cu. ft. Norcold in the camper and the 12 cu.ft. in the MH. We've been camping for 30+ years and never saw an RV on fire from them. I know Richard put a picture of a MH on fire supposedly from an absorption frig which made me wonder about ours. But they both work great and I just haven't been pushed to the point of making the expenditure. I did hear of the cost to repair the 12 cu.ft. was pretty spendy and at that time might switch it out to a residential. I'm not surprised by the survey but I do expect to see residential frigs be more of the norm in the future due to customer demand coupled with less cost to the manufacture.
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For every DP with a residential refrigerator, there are probably 25 to 50 travel trailers with 1 or 2-door Norcolds of Dometics. That's the reason Norcold and Dometic are #1 and #2 - they simple sell more refrigerators to RV manufacturers than all the residential brands combined. TTs usually don't have room for more than 1 battery, and they usually don't have inverters to power a residential refrigerator or a generator to recharge the batteries, so they're just not as suitable for residential refrigerators.
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Got my MH magazine today and they had the Readers Choice Awards. Did anyone notice the #1 refrigerator was Norcold, #2 Dometic, #3 Atwood. Am I missing something here? Where is Samsung?
Just curios, I have been a subscriber to the magazine for years. I do enjoy reading it. I have never been asked to vote on my choice of products-- or I have missed the opportunity. Anyone knows how the voting works and how to participate?

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herein begs the question which I have never been able to see a concrete answer with concrete evidence
HOW MANY (numbers please) 1200 series NORCOLD fridges were installed in Motorhomes
and how many actually caught on fire??
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Maybe the question was, #1 refrigerator to Catch Fire?

OK maybe tell us how many norcold 1200 series produced and how many caught on fire?? I bet its like less than .005%
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OK maybe tell us how many norcold 1200 series produced and how many caught on fire?? I bet its like less than .005%
If it were MY refrigerator fire, the answer would be 100%.
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Just curios, I have been a subscriber to the magazine for years. I do enjoy reading it. I have never been asked to vote on my choice of products-- or I have missed the opportunity. Anyone knows how the voting works and how to participate?

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I've never participated - but here's one answer:

MotorHome Survey | MotorHome Magazine

Apparently they announce a survey - not sure how - which anyone can vote in.
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