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Old 10-08-2010, 02:12 AM   #1
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new Dutch star

I am considering a new 2011 Dutch Star 4386 loaded, 3 AC's, hydronic heat,4 tvs, 400 hp diesel, sideview cameras,central vac, washer/ dryer etc.
The dealer in Jacksonville Fl wants 339k.
I owe approx. 37k on an 07 Titanium fifth wheel by Glendale which is out of business.
The truck is a 08 F350 6.4 diesel with 66k on it the truck is loaded without GPS.
I will be trading it in.
The dealer says he will pay off the loans and I would have to pay 256K.
I think this price is high in this market and was wondering how much could I get off on the MSRP. I know the trade in's throw a monkey wrench into the deal.
Any help would be appreciate.
I am considering traveling to the Tampa Bay region for another dealer.

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Titanic1912, welcome to iRV2.

Originally Posted by titanic1912 View Post
...I think this price is high in this market and was wondering how much could I get off on the MSRP...
The number I hear most frequently for discount from MSRP is 20 to 25%.

What's difficult to determine is the value of the trade-ins. NADA has values available online, but the book values don't always reflect local demand (or lack thereof) and seasonal variations.

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Old 10-08-2010, 04:57 AM   #4
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Dutch Stars have traditionally have been discounted around 28%.

Check with Independence in Winter Garden and North Trail in Fort Myers.

Of course, if you buy at the maximum discount, your trade in value will be low.
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Old 10-08-2010, 06:25 AM   #6
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thanks for the info, I am not going back to Jacksonville:
one reason is it's 65 miles north
they had limited inventory
don't want to buy impulsively
I want to check out Independence RV in Winter haven, they have an 08 used that might be of interest
thanks for all the advice
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Independence all the way! I bought from them last year. If it's an '08 make sure they put fresh coach batteries in. That was my only problem with my '07, they filled and charged them before I got there but they had been improperly cared for while it sat on the lot. The other thing would be to make sure they cover having it "buffed" and polished, the Orlando sun had done a number on my paint after two years with no wax.

I changed batteries, had it buffed and all is good. Great dealer, great price (i.e. discount), and friendly knowledgeable staff. Ask for Helen Curtis, she's very knowledgeable and a great salesperson, the no bull type of sales associate.
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They are simply giving you a 25% discount for the motorhome and nothing for your rig. I agree with the other posters to shop around and using a lower price to negotiate with the local dealer. The other option is to sell your rig yourself but your faced with the same market as the dealers, except you could sell your rig at a discount for a fast sale and you would still be ahead than if you took the original deal.

Unless your new rig has some feature that you must have that's not found on other coaches of the same model, such as handicap access or a non standard floor plan I would seriously consider looking for a lightly used two or three year old coach. The initial bugs will be worked out and the previous owner may have installed options that you would have done anyway. Also there's still enough warranty left that you would be able to take care of anything that may arise for the next two or three years; and the total cost saving would be considerable.
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If you can, and don't mind the travel, check with Lee's RV in Oklahoma City. There is a 4386 w/o washer and dryer (plumbed for it), pretty much everything else for $316K

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I went to Independence yesterday and ''looked around'', I loved the 08 Mountaineer but it was a little to rich for my budget.
I think I'll keep the Titanium and truck for a while.
I don't retire until June of 11, I have to go back to work on the 19th and the season is over the 31st so I'll wait.
I appreciate all the info and will stay in touch.
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I think that would be a Mountian Aire.
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...the season is over the 31st
??? Certainly not in Florida!
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Old 10-10-2010, 05:47 AM   #13
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it's over in Massachusetts but I've only 8 months to go, then I'm going camping full time.
the spelling was a little off on the Mountain Aire and was promptly corrected.

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