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Old 02-27-2014, 08:19 PM   #71
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Folks- floating floors- were designed for the do it yourself crowd that have some basic skills who believe they can tackle the job. Floating floors can be installed over boulders - well sort of. Minimal floor prep is required. The manufacturers geared themselves up full force during our depression to get their product out to keep their mills in production.
Professional grade, to me standards, NO. But- I'm just a cookie crumb in the cookie jar.
It's a good thing ... Florida slabs are not pretty ... and there are lots of them. Except for the ones that are now in sinkholes ...
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Old 02-28-2014, 07:47 AM   #72
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Not sure if it is appropriate to ask how much it cost to do the '05 Journey. We have an '04 Journey 39K so costs should be close for what I want to do with ours. It really looks good. Thanks
Second that a ball park would be nice. Maybe price per SQ FT
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I know that the Handscraped doesn't show scratches as bad but IMHO it looks almost warped.
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I installed Kronotec 12 mm laminate in our condo and love it. Looks great wears great but 12mm is too heavy for and rv.
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warped? laminate too heavy? seriously?
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I installed Kronotec 12 mm laminate in our condo and love it. Looks great wears great but 12mm is too heavy for and rv.
Just realized the Engineered Flooring weights as much or more than 12mm laminate. Adding 500-800 lbs to the MH may be a problem for us anyone else?
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warped? laminate too heavy? seriously?
As I said it's just us but it doesn't look good to us. Love to do the MH but I guess I need to do the math on the weight. Being fultimers we are fairly loaded as is.
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The largest coach I have done was a 45 foot Monaco. The weight of removing the old ceramic, which weighs 5 pounds a square foot, and then adding engineered wood, which can weigh 1.5- 2 pounds a square foot, evenly distributed, would be like having an NFL player along for the ride.
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Our MH has carpet and vinyl flooring and I know from removing carpet from the condo it plus the embedded dirt and pad are heavy in itself. I may have jumped before reasoning and your right it probably wouldn't add that much. No more than an extra person or two, especially some of our friends LOL.
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Don't mean to question you. I know you are light years in experience ahead of me. Just posting some of our experiences and concerns.
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Just realized the Engineered Flooring weights as much or more than 12mm laminate. Adding 500-800 lbs to the MH may be a problem for us anyone else?
Thanks first to bruceisla for the links on weight.

OK...I'm like you and know Ernie is MUCH more experienced and maybe there might be some additional "stuff" laid down in the process besides the wood flooring. I'm not smart enough to know if my ceramic tile is the same thickness of wood replacement and might require something to "fix" that. But, ASSUME I don't need that, here is what I think I have figured out based on sampling of information I got from bruceisla.

First a very rough but I think conservative estimate for my current tile is about 132 sq ft. I have tile from the very front to the beginning of the bed room. My front axle is rated at 14,600# and we full time with 2 GSDs. Current load on the front axle is 14,320#. We just started full time so I expect some "mission creep". LOL However, seriously speaking, I am concerned about having to run 115 PSI to support that weight so I do want to improve that situation. Also, our slate tile floor is a tad too grey for my tastes and we hope to brighten things up with the new floor.

Roughly speaking, using a conservative 4.5# per sq ft my total tile weight is 594#. Using the heavier wood in the examples provided by bruceisla it comes out to 1.64# per sq ft or a total of 217#. I loose about 374# (an NFL Lineman) and a rough mathematical estimate is that at least 200# of that will come off of the front axle. Perhaps more. Of course, if I actually have more tile to remove (and/or it is closer to 5# per sq ft), I will lose even more weight. OTOH, I plan to replace carpet in the bedroom with wood and that should have a small weight gain but with our tag axle that is not even close to a problem...in fact, a little extra weight in the bedroom actually takes weight off of my front axle.

I can't speak for any other RV surfaces being removed since I don't have them but if one did have some kind of 1/8" linoleum it looks like it would run about 1.5# per sq ft plus the weight of any underlayment that MIGHT be there but I suspect that it could nearly be a wash in weight with engineered wood.

Then again...I could be wrong about that since I am kinda flooring stupid. Any correction to my ASSUMPTIONS is fine by me.
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Then again...I could be wrong about that since I am kinda flooring stupid. Any correction to my ASSUMPTIONS is fine by me.
You are very welcome!!

I think your guesstimates are pretty good. I never did the math on mine because I tossed a steel frame sofa, 2 steel frame swivel chairs at dining table, an old CRT TV up front, and a satellite dish ... and all the dirt impregnated carpet/padding. My top-of-head guess for mine would be a net LOSS of 300lb. I also tossed the Dometic reefer and put in a residential but that was almost the same weight (but I gained 3 cf of cold space).

And the wood flooring is ridiculously easy to keep clean !!

and I tossed my glass shower door/panels/frame ... probably another 30 lb.

In the interest of full disclosure, the weight savings has probably been neutralized due to beer storage ...
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In the interest of full disclosure, the weight savings has probably been neutralized due to beer storage ...
and box wine for me~
your calculations are pretty spot on.
the lightest floorcovering probably would be sheet vinyl. followed by luxury vinyl planks, then cork, then engineered wood. lastly, slate, ceramic, porcelain tile would be on the heavy end of the spectrum.
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In the interest of full disclosure, the weight savings has probably been neutralized due to beer storage ...
and box wine for me~
your calculations are pretty spot on.
the lightest floorcovering probably would be sheet vinyl. followed by luxury vinyl planks, then cork, then engineered wood. lastly, slate, ceramic, porcelain tile would be on the heavy end of the spectrum.
So...what are the pros and cons of cork vs engineered wood?

Also, what is your favorite flooring to work with?
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