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02-27-2014, 05:54 AM
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Yes, this coach is a keeper
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I am shoulder deep in Bluebird envy .... sigh . I am a huge fan of light colored woodwork and light colored fabrics.
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02-27-2014, 06:40 AM
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The next upgrade will be new upholstery on the couch. Currently, it has leather that is so slick, that our 6 pound poodles slide off of it.
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02-27-2014, 07:23 AM
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Just curious, everything I have read about laminate flooring says to float it. You glued it down which seems to me a better way since I have seen a lot of complaints about seams popping up. Have you seen any problems from the glued down flooring coming up? BTW I wish I was closer so you could do our MH. Currently hosting at Inks Lake State Park. Maybe one day.
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02-27-2014, 12:17 PM
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nbargolf,
I think the key on glued or floating is what material you use. Ernie specifically chooses engineered flooring (which is NOT laminate) because it CAN be glued. Laminate flooring typically cannot be glued because it expands and contracts too much and must be allowed to float.
This install has me thinking, I love the fact that a glued down installation offers a nicer final product with no molding and such. I am looking at a bamboo now that is scraped ;-)
Chris
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02-27-2014, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by akeyzoo
nbargolf,
I think the key on glued or floating is what material you use. Ernie specifically chooses engineered flooring (which is NOT laminate) because it CAN be glued. Laminate flooring typically cannot be glued because it expands and contracts too much and must be allowed to float.
This install has me thinking, I love the fact that a glued down installation offers a nicer final product with no molding and such. I am looking at a bamboo now that is scraped ;-)
Chris
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Your right I misread thought it was laminate. Does anyone know the best for not showing wear laminate or engineered flooring. That is the most important to us.
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02-27-2014, 12:23 PM
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Ive been thinking of that too. Super light and green!
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02-27-2014, 12:54 PM
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Not sure if it is appropriate to ask how much it cost to do the '05 Journey. We have an '04 Journey 39K so costs should be close for what I want to do with ours. It really looks good. Thanks
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02-27-2014, 03:50 PM
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when you use urethane adhesive- your floor will NOT come up. Years ago, I used a water/latex based adhesive. Yup- I ate that job. Now, the urethane adhesive has no water, but it cures by moisture in the air. Don't ask me how- it just does. Chemistry was not my forte'
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02-27-2014, 03:53 PM
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Ive been thinking of that too. Super light and green!
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Engineered wood flooring (assuming good quality) is not light ... lift a box at your big box store and you'll be surprised.
However, it is an excellent product that resists splitting and cracking and comes in a huge assortment of species and finishes.
I see a lot of posts regarding floating of the engineered wood flooring. Don't forget that this was a product designed for homes and quite often is installed over a concrete slab with insulation and a vapor barrier. Years ago, wood flooring over concrete was a "major production" to say the least.
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02-27-2014, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bruceisla
Engineered wood flooring (assuming good quality) is not light ... lift a box at your big box store and you'll be surprised....
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I'm curious to the weight. My slate tile floor comes in at about 5#/sq ft. Any idea on the engineered wood? I haven't found a site that provides that info.
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02-27-2014, 05:21 PM
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I would think, depending on the amount of plywood layers, that engineered would be 1/2 the weight of the cold ceramic tile.
Installing on concrete, years ago was before there was any kind of moisture barrier. The hydrostatic pressure would literally pop vinyl composition tiles or rot old wood. There are great moisture membranes out there now. We don't have to be concerned with any moisture coming up from the floor- unless you have a water leak.
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02-27-2014, 06:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernie Ekberg
I would think, depending on the amount of plywood layers, that engineered would be 1/2 the weight of the cold ceramic tile.
Installing on concrete, years ago was before there was any kind of moisture barrier. The hydrostatic pressure would literally pop vinyl composition tiles or rot old wood. There are great moisture membranes out there now. We don't have to be concerned with any moisture coming up from the floor- unless you have a water leak.
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Yup ... my comment was in regards to why floating floors made installation over concrete easy. Lot's of engineered wood is now listed as glue/staple/float. Not a lot of concrete sub-floored RVs out there . Assuming you don't want to ever remove the finished flooring, I'd opt for "non-floating".
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02-27-2014, 07:09 PM
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Folks- floating floors- were designed for the do it yourself crowd that have some basic skills who believe they can tackle the job. Floating floors can be installed over boulders - well sort of. Minimal floor prep is required. The manufacturers geared themselves up full force during our depression to get their product out to keep their mills in production.
Professional grade, to me standards, NO. But- I'm just a cookie crumb in the cookie jar.
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