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Old 04-23-2016, 07:09 AM   #1
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Sometime early next week I will be the owner of a 1999 Newmar Mountainaire or 2000 Monaco Diplomat. I have narrowed it down to those two. The Newmar is a V10 gas engine (45,000 miles) and the Monaco is diesel (64,000 miles).

I'm new to this type of camping, I had pop ups in the 1970/80's but this will be for me and my wife. I will send out a new thread when I decide (money is an issue) based on inspections.

I look forward to feed back from all you guys and gals; what I need to get started, tips for the newcomers, and any suggestions you want to throw my way. I ride a Yamaha Royal Star Venture motorcycle and the site for this type motorcycle has been great insofar as info, mechanics, etc. I'm sure this site will be the same.

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Old 04-23-2016, 07:16 AM   #2
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You will be kicking yourself in the butt if you buy a gas rig over a DP! DPs are more comfortable for a dozen reasons. Higher end in almost all aspects. do a search here for gas Vs. Diesel for more reasons. But if you insist on a gasser, Newmar are great coaches. Monacos are also great coaches and I know I will get yelled at but DPs are just better!! LOL

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Old 04-23-2016, 07:17 AM   #3
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This may sound a bit odd coming from a Newmar owner. However if they are in equal shape and the price is about the same. I would opt for the Monaco diesel. There are a lot of threads in the forum that deal with gas vs diesel. Ride with a diesel (air suspension) is better, more power, engine in the rear so you don't hear it while driving. A diesel will cost more to maintain. The list goes on. Check out the threads it will help you a lot.

Good luck and let us know what you decide on.

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Old 04-23-2016, 08:14 AM   #4
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First off, welcome to the Forum! Here you will find lots of interesting information about everything. Having had a V10 and now a Diesel, I agree. If they check out, go with the Diesel. But, both brands are reputable and you will be fine with either.

Camping the MH compared to a pop-up is totally different. First off, you are self contained and can make meals and go to the bathroom while on the road. It is much more convenient. However, you are a bit more limited in camp sites and may want to consider pulling a vehicle behind (a "toad") so that you don't have to break camp to go get a loaf of bread.

We moved up from a pop-up to a hard sided trailer with our first grandchild (it had a tub to give him a bath), then went gasser MH with the second. We liked it so much, we upgraded to Diesel and haven't regretted it.

Good luck on your decision!
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Old 04-23-2016, 08:46 AM   #5
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(money is an issue)
If so then maintenance on a diesel might be an issue.
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Old 04-23-2016, 08:55 AM   #6
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Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined the gang!

Go for the DP! Keep her between the ditches!

Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
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Old 04-23-2016, 10:40 AM   #7
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Be sure to have a qualified mechanic check out the either rig you decide to buy. My mom just purchased a 99 Monaco windsor 38 dp because it was in awesome shape, I never had a chance to look at the rig because I was busy with a new born. She looked at it and was wowed by the clean interior and exterior and the price. ( it was about 12k under book). I now know why. It was also 200 miles away.
Now it turns out we are replacing radiator, charge air cooler, oil cooler, exhaust manifold, entire exhaust system, pac brake, and servicing everything from the transmission, generator, all the fluids because we have no knowledge of service. All of this work is coming in at about 10k without labor (possible another 10k), but because I am doing the labor for it, she will save that. But you see where I'm going with it. Have it checked out by someone competent of looking at it, be sure to bring these items up to whomever you have look at it just in case they ( forget or ....). But I was shocked at the cost of these parts. and started a thread 99 Monaco Windsor side radiator CAC removal
to get help from the people here on fixing these issues. Thanks everyone for the help. Had I looked at it prior for her we may have passed on this rig because of the extensive work needed. I guess now she will have still paid a fair price for it, and it will be ready for another 25 years of fun from these parts we are replacing and I have only lost several weekends of time.
Good luck on your decision.
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Old 04-23-2016, 01:09 PM   #8
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Gas guys will tell you how much easier and cheeper the maintenance is and how it serves their purpose just fine ... Diesel guys will tell you, the room, the ride, the engine or exhaust brake and the power is worth every penny. And some (including me) will tell you if you can learn to do most of the maintenance yourself, it's not really more expensive ( ok maybe a little ). Just think of it this way, very few people by a diesel and later wish that had gotten a gas instead. I vote for the diesel and tell you that you will love it... But then.. I'm a diesel guy!

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Old 04-23-2016, 08:51 PM   #9
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Bottom line - you want to go diesel.
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Old 04-23-2016, 09:29 PM   #10
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Sorry diesel guys but gas for me. You're right on the ride but diesel engines end up costing way too much in maintenance. Been there done that.

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