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Old 06-22-2014, 07:45 AM   #1
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Just joined today so I ask your patience if I post anything stupid.
I am about to purchase a 1983 Vogue II 33ft Gas (puller) I have been researching this vehicle for a couple of weeks and I have decided I want to buy. Now you can believe this or not, but the current owner bought this rig from an estate. The previous owner was the 2nd owner. He had money and loved the vehicle. I have receipts totally nearly $75,000 from the same RV shop in San Diego and have verified these recepits as being legit. The most recent ones were for a new GM 502 (carb) and trans totally $24,000. 6,400 miles since that work was done.Virtually every single component etc etc has been replaced on this rig in the last ten years. My only issue is tires. The tandem rears and tag axle are all 10 years old and must be replaced obviously irregardless of the lack of wear on them
OK, here is the crux of the matter. A good friend who has been RV'ing for some years stated that he would not buy a GM chassis. He would prefer a Ford Chassis. My understanding was that this Vogue is a custom coach. From what I've read online, the guy who started Vogue was toying with converting Prevost passenger busses and that took off so he sold out to Featherlite and began building Prevost RV's full time.
Can anyone fill in the detaisl here. I have seen some Vogues for sale that state they were built on such and such custom chassis. Where would I find that info on the vehicle ? Every Mfg plate I've found states GM, plus GVWR and tire specs etc. Have seen nothing of a chassis Mfg. Sorry if I sound dumb, I am. This is my first RV although I have seen the Vogues around for years and admire the style. Just something about the shape and the tag axle etc that really appeals to me. Plus this one is more like 10 yrs old than 30.
Feel free to comment even if you feel I'm a dumbass.

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Old 06-22-2014, 08:46 AM   #2
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Welcome to IRV2. I am not sure what was offered in 1983 for chassis. In my opinion it doesn't matter now. The GM 502 crate engine is a strong one. The rest of the unit sounds like it appeals to you. Go for it. It's not like you can change it to a Ford. That whole GM vs. Ford debate has been going on forever. They are both good.
However, conventional wisdom says get rid of the 10 year old tires even if they look good.
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:02 AM   #3
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You didn't say what it will cost to acquire. It sounds like you have done your research and are handy. Being able to tackle problems yourself would be key in owning an older coach like this, but also make ownership very rewarding.

Gm or ford? Who cares for this vintage and the drivetrain sounds solid.

Btw, this thread sucks without pics!

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Old 06-22-2014, 04:18 PM   #4
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Old 06-22-2014, 04:26 PM   #5
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Vogue, as far as sounding like a dumbass, you will fit right in with the rest of us. It's why we are here. Bouncing ideas and questions off each other is how we solve the worlds camping problems! Enjoy your soon to be new RV!
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Welcome to IRV2! It's great to have you join the gang!

Sorry I can't help with your questions. Enjoy the forum!

Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
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......A good friend who has been RV'ing for some years stated that he would not buy a GM chassis. He would prefer a Ford Chassis........

Well, you can find plenty of folks on this and other fora who won't even look at a Ford chassis, let alone buy one. La dee da. Sounds like you've done your homework and found a nice vintage piece. Enjoy it! And tell your friend to take a valium, 'cause contrasting your attitude with his attitude, its only going to be about 6 mos or a year before you're the expert and he's still bitchin' about GM chassis.

Oh, and the only dumb question is the one you *don't* ask!
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Well, you can find plenty of folks on this and other fora who won't even look at a Ford chassis, let alone buy one. La dee da. Sounds like you've done your homework and found a nice vintage piece. Enjoy it! And tell your friend to take a valium, 'cause contrasting your attitude with his attitude, its only going to be about 6 mos or a year before you're the expert and he's still bitchin' about GM chassis.

Oh, and the only dumb question is the one you *don't* ask!

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Wow I didn't think that there were any Vogues to be had. I was just getting out of the Navy and I thought the vogues were cool. Anyway there is a yahoo group with about 144 members. It looks like there has not been much activity. Also check some of the vintage rv blogs for more info. No dumb questions here just lots of unbiased opinions. You never know who answer posts. The beauty of the World Wide Web is the info and rv sites like this one whose members are willing to share information. Good luck in your purchase and thanks for preserving the past.

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Old 06-23-2014, 05:20 AM   #10
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The asking price is $10,000. We are negotiating a deal based on the issue of the age of the rear tires. My feeling is 6 tires at $350 each ($2,100) divided by two so I will pay him $8,950 for the vehicle. He is a nice gent but no more experience than me with RV's. He bought the vehicle in 2010 with the new motor and trans and drove a few times each of the past three summers totaling aprx 6,400 miles. He had no trouble with the tires so he feels they may go, they may not. At this point, after having reviewed the recepits for the work done on this coach from from 2000-2010 I am willing to pay the full $10k if need be. As I said before, the list of items replaced constitutes a new RV. Even the carpeting was redone in 2008. About the only thing I can find to pick at (other than the tires) is that the driver's seat needs to be reupholsterd but the frame and mechanism was replaced in 2007 LOL.
Thank you all for the warm welcome and comments. I look forward to being a part of your community. WHo knows, maybe we'll encounter each other somewhere. The vehicle came from San Diego and is now in Maine. I am taking it back to California. That's a lot of campgrounds to stop at along the way.
Happy Trails everyone
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:41 AM   #11
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Yeah, I would for sure try to get the 1/2 price of tires as a reduction, you for sure do want to change them before traveling, my outside limit on tires based on experience is 7 year if maintained correctly. As far as price, units like that are hard to value since so few are bought and sold regularly. It sounds high for that vintage, but when you consider the fact that most of the running gear and extras are essentially new, doesn't sound bad. Biggest part of the decision is, if you like it, have done your "due diligence"....go for it. Doesn't sound like you can go too wrong here. But don't forget one thing, Ford is better then Chevy, no I mean Chevy is better than Ford, no Ford is better, no wait I meant Chevy is better, no did I say Chevy I, meant Ford, but then maybe Chevy is better......

Get it, go and enjoy!

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I know absolutely nothing about this topic. I am going to offer some generic advice. Are parts still available for that chassis. I.E can you still get front end parts or brake parts. Are there any items in the coach that are model specific. If the generator goes out will you be able to get a newer model in that coach. Is the tanks special order for your coach if one has to be replaced do you have room to get what is available now. I do not believe this to be a problem but you should look into it. The poster that recommended looking for other owners of this coach gave you good advice try to find someone that has one and ask them for any issues with getting repair parts
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Ok, this is why I said I might be a dumbass. I started this thread hoping I'd find some people who knew Vogue coaches and could give me some tips, hints, caveats etc. Now it seems I should look elsewhere for the Vogue people but where might I find them ? I am part owner of a website for motorcycles myself and I do know how these things work, but we always indulge a new member by providing them with a direct link to the thread they are really looking for. Sorry, I hope nobody takes issue with what I'm saying here but it's just a bit frustrating. So would somebody indulge my ignorne and point me to a thread where I can talk to some fellow Vogue owners ?
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As a person familiar with websites, you must know that Google is your friend.

What have your own efforts discovered?
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