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Old 03-30-2014, 10:33 PM   #15
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Moral to the story is to do due diligence and research before you walk on any sales lot. In this case OP probably got lucky while dealing with a liar.
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Thanks for all of the input. Based on the information we have contacted the dealership and they have agreed to take back the Newmar & give us the Aspire with the layout we loved. I want to be clear that the Newmar is a great coach and the reasons we are going with the Aspire is the layout along with the 2 year bumper to bumper warranty. On a side note the dealership is setting us up so we don't have to put another 10% down. Hopefully we can now get excited about RVING

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Well, welcome to Entegra...certainly was not what any of us intended...you're Newmar choice would likely been fine. Both are constructed very well (I've been to both factories) and the construction approach is very similar. There are many that are very sold on Comfort Drive, which you won't have, but there are many that are very happy with their Aspire drive.

You'll find an Entegra forum under the Jayco Owners Forum where you'll be able to read all about the good and the bad. Just remember on this forum, people get on there to talk issues. But you'll also read that the Customer Service from Entegra can't be beat...along with that two year warrantee. We too were first timers 16 months ago...if you have questions, feel free to PM me. I also act as the National Director for the Entegra Coach Owners Association, that I hope you'll join when you get your coach.
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Newmar makes a great coach and you chose the one you will be comfortable Welcome and enjoy the travel as its the only thing you can invest in that makes you richer...
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:38 PM   #19
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Both great coaches. The all electric coach is a plus. JMO but well researched!
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Thanks for all of the input. Based on the information we have contacted the dealership and they have agreed to take back the Newmar & give us the Aspire with the layout we loved. I want to be clear that the Newmar is a great coach and the reasons we are going with the Aspire is the layout along with the 2 year bumper to bumper warranty. On a side note the dealership is setting us up so we don't have to put another 10% down. Hopefully we can now get excited about RVING

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Sounds like the dealership is trying to do the right thing. Now they just need to blow that lying salesman out!
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just one more thing... Does anyone know how long the 50 gallon propane tank may last on average, in the 2014 Aspire???
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I have an 2011 berkshire and I filled my tank the beginning of last year camping and travelled several thousand miles. I also use the propane for my grill besides the stove, fridge and hot water. I filled the tank a couple of weeks ago at flying j and I paid $12.00. If you are hooked up to shore power you tend to use more electricity than propane. Someone just posted on another thread enjoy the ride. Congratulations and many miles of happy rving.
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just one more thing... Does anyone know how long the 50 gallon propane tank may last on average, in the 2014 Aspire???
I ran my furnace 24/7 during single digit weather in Iowa and Wisconsin and the 20 gallon tank it lasted 4 days. During the summer months I can get an entire season from it. 50 gallons should last a long time.
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just one more thing... Does anyone know how long the 50 gallon propane tank may last on average, in the 2014 Aspire???
May I suggest you ask the question in the Entegra Forum under the Jayco Owners Forum:

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just one more thing... Does anyone know how long the 50 gallon propane tank may last on average, in the 2014 Aspire???
50 gallon? Never knew they made them that big!
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It's obvious most of the answers you got were from Entegra owners that felt snubbed at what the salesman told you. Yes he lied, but the one of the reasons you gave for getting the Newmar originally was very sound. The Comfort Steer did make the chore less stressful after driving for a while IMO.

I did do a side by side comparison of Newmar versus Entegra, and I was more impressed with the Newmar. I thought the fit and finish were superior and the ways to customize the interior was superior in the Newmar product. It seemed if you did not like the layout options in Entegra, of well. They would not change it. Newmar did allow changing dining booths with tables and chairs, couches with other seating arrangements, etc. At the time I looked at Entegra I was told these items could not be changed. These are my opinions only and are most likely different from all the Entegra owners here, but that's OK since we all have the right to our opinions.

If my coach had not come along when it did, I would most likely own a Dutchstar myself. Or perhaps an Allegro Bus. I just thought a different opinion was appropriate here.
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Pls reread mine and the other posts...I said the salesman was full of crap (he lied)...then I said, that said, you got a good coach made by a good company. I don't really care what someone buys...if I didn't buy an Entegra I would have bought a Newmar...WRT Comfort Steer, I'd like it, but not for $55k more than I spent for the equivalent of everything else. Sorry, but Comfort Steer does not make or break a deal for me. JMHO. In a later post, I suggested that better prep before walking on a sales floor would be a good thing.

So, my recommendation is, let's not develop an us versus them discussion...it was never started. Nobody cares for a salesperson that tells half truths or out and out falsehoods. Of course, OP may have misunderstood as well. No harm, no foul.
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Old 04-02-2014, 09:02 AM   #28
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I like salesman who lie to me. Every lie I catch them in means thousands of dollars in my pocket when all is done and over. Each and every one is a negotiation tool. Just make sure you know enough going into it to catch it when they lie.
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