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Old 01-27-2012, 02:54 PM   #1
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New York State R Endorsement for License

Has anyone gone through the process of getting the r-endorsement for their license? I see that our Journey weighs 29,900lbs and anyone drive vehicles over 26,000 have to have the endorsement. The DMV site says a road test is required but no written test. I was just wondering what steps will the examiner be looking for? I would expect testing all the lights, checking air brake pressures, but what else? I want to be prepared come spring time.

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I checked into this about a yr ago speaking with the Road Test tester. He said it shouldn't be any problem as the test was nothing more then customary driving. However, we some how got to the revelation that it included "parallel parking". I won't repeat my comment about that, but advised him I have been driving MH since 1995 and have never attempted to parallel park, even in the absence of a toad. My current MH doesn't qualify by either weight or length so I have not yet taken the test. Hopefully the lottery gods will favor me. Waterdog4315

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Old 01-27-2012, 04:43 PM   #3
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This topic was also covered in r-endorsement. I don't want to repeat myself too much, but it was a major challange for the DMV staff every step of the way. The roadtest was simple enough, just to show that you can handle the RV properly on tight city streets. The parallel park was the biggest challange. My problem was that I had not followed the laws to the letter during the past 50 years. Those bad habits caused issues with the examiner. After I got the license I asked my insurance company if they cared, they did not. They were ok without me having the endorsement. My wife has stated she will not get the endorsement, too much of a hassle.
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According to the head tester for Western New York State and also according to how the law is written, the R endorsement is recommended, but is not mandatory. If you read the law itself, it says that an RV driver MAY get the endorsement, not they MUST get the endorsement. The website itself says you must get it, but when you read the law it is you MAY get the endorsement.

There is a very big downside to getting the endorsement. That downside is that there is a higher standard for someone with the endorsement. For example, in the event of an accident you may be determined to be in a "should have known" situation because you have the endorsement. In NY, if you have a school bus license you can be found guilty of DWI at a lower blood level than a regular driver even though you are in your own vehicle, not a bus.

Hardly any RV dealers are even aware of the existance of the R endorsement, let alone the technicalities of it.
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Originally Posted by wnytaxman View Post
According to the head tester for Western New York State and also according to how the law is written, the R endorsement is recommended, but is not mandatory. If you read the law itself, it says that an RV driver MAY get the endorsement, not they MUST get the endorsement. The website itself says you must get it, but when you read the law it is you MAY get the endorsement.
That is patently false. According to actual NYS V&T Law:

Title 3, Article 10, Division 385, Subdivision 3, Paragraph c: Laws of New York
.... In the event such a house coach exceeds either twenty-six thousand pounds gross vehicle weight rating, is greater than forty feet in length or exceeds both, the operator of such house coach must have a driver's license with a personal use vehicle endorsement as set forth in ....
Title 5, Article 19, Division 501, Subdivision 2, Paragraph (b), Sub-Paragraph (vii): Laws of New York
(vii) Personal use vehicle endorsement. Shall be required to operate a personal use vehicle or a combination of personal use vehicles which may not be operated with a class C, D or E license. The identification and scope of any such endorsement or endorsements shall be as prescribed by regulation of the commissioner, but no such endorsement shall permit the operation of a rental truck towing a vehicle with a GVWR of more than ten thousand pounds.
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You are correct. I recently took the R test and got the endorsement. I did update Ed (Wnytaxman) at the time.

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