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Old 02-19-2019, 10:13 AM   #1
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Newbie Which Class A brand to buy?

Hello I am planning to buy a new class A with $325k-ish to spend. I have
driven my dads diplomat from the days of Monaco being Monaco. I am
looking for a tag 43ish ft, 450hp all the new bells and whistles. The problem is which manufacturer.

Sorry if this thread is asked all the time. Tiffen and Newmar reps are
very convinced they are the best, REV group (American coach, Monaco etc)
dont get spoken of as highly nor does Thor. Havent talked to an Entegra rep yet.
Was excited about the new modern Winnebego's but looked at 2 new ones and both already had fit/finish issues. I have been to many shows and
dealers (will go to Hershey show this year) and dont have a clear path.

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Old 02-19-2019, 12:41 PM   #2
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43 ft coach

Do you think you can get a quality 43 ft tag for 325K? sounds a little low? Maybe a Fleetwood Discovery?
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Newmarket Dutch Star. Maybe last years model. Or a used one .
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:45 PM   #4
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I've owned 4 Class A motor homes, Holiday Rambler, Rexhall RoseAir, Winnebago Tour and Newmar Dutch Star.
Of all of them, the Dutch Star has been the best with the least amount of problems.
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Newmar, Tiffin, Entegra. That's what I would focus on. Personally there is no way I would buy new; depreciation and getting the bugs worked out. Good luck with your search.
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Old 02-19-2019, 06:13 PM   #6
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In that price range, I don't know. REV is slowly phasing things out to just one or two models I think. I'd stay away from the new Horizons, real glitzy but might be a can of worms down the road. If you can get an Entegra or Newmar in that price with what you're looking for, both nice.

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How much time did you spend using the Monaco, if less than 30-45 days I would strongly suggest buying something used 5 or so years old that has taken the initial depreciation hit. That way after a few months using it, you will learn the features that you love about it, and more importantly the features that you hate. Often these will be things that never occurred to you when you were shopping, just ask yourself how you feel about side vs top opening cargo compartment doors, or what are your thoughts on turning radius / wheel cut vs wheel base length and off tracking? If you don't have opinions on these yet, you really should strongly consider an older coach to use as a learning tool, plan to keep it a year or so then trade it in on what you really want, chances are you will be money ahead, and likely be happier in the end, as lots of people have a hard time admitting they got it wrong when buying a new coach, then they live with it and are unhappy.
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Like all the others they are not without shortcomings, but OVERALL our Berkshire has given us a pretty good value.... There's some pretty nice tag versions.
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You can buy a new Dutch Star, nicely loaded for $325K, but depending on what state you live in, you'll need additional for tax and license.

I would stay with Newmar Dutch Star, Tiffin Phaeton or Entegra Aspire with your budget.

Newmar had quite an increase this year in building costs (I believe steel), but intends on holding off the increase until 2020 models.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:38 AM   #10
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Thanks my $325 is an ish before taxes and fees. I have seen units
in this price range..with sales and end of year models etc. I have about 8k
miles under my belt driving my dads Diplomat 10 yrs ago and it was 40ft
with no tag.
My debate is not about the money but:

New, repairs under factory warranty to my satisfaction and control
(I live in MI so drive to Ind to the factories would be easy)

Used, were repairs made and what has happened in between.

I am very mechanically inclined so I am sure some issues i could solve myself.
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I did sit in a Dutch star and chatted with the factory rep for 30min last week at
the detroit RV show and it seems like a nice unit and the guy had a lot to say
about the brand
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It is a personal decision, but personally with the general lack of quality control in the RV industry, combined with the number of pre-loved well cared for coaches out there on the lightly used market (often through no fault of the seller, health issues, etc.) I would tend to opt for lightly used in your situation, having let someone else deal with the initial quality control / build issues. There are just too many horror stories out there about people buying new coaches, just to have them spend 6+ months of their 1 year warranty in the shop.
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Look at the Tiffin Bus and if using the big three (Sherman, Davis, Ingram) you will end up at around 28% or a bit more under MSRP
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When people talk about the "Horror Stories" of buying new, take it with a grain of salt. On any forum you will hear from the few people with problems, but the happy majority usually have little to say. I realize that my 2013 Bus is considered old by some, but it has been a trouble free joy to drive and enjoy. We ordered it and waited 6 weeks for delivery. It has exactly what we wanted and could care less what the depreciation has been. When it's 10 years old, we'll be in our 80's and I'll still be glad we bought it new.
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