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Old 11-13-2015, 08:09 PM   #1
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Oil change DIY Vs truck stop

I went to a Petro truck stop over the summer, first time I let a shop do it because I was on the road without drain pan etc.

So today I dropped the oil NP, then the oil filter would not come off.

I used this , with standard 1/2" ratchet 10" long.
I braced myself with both feet on the frame, nope would not move.

I used a 3' breaker bar, again with both feet on the frame for leverage.

Finally it broke loose.

rubber seal was bone dry the mechanic never put a smear of oil on it.

Just annoying to pay for having it done wrong.


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I went to a Petro truck stop over the summer, first time I let a shop do it because I was on the road without drain pan etc.

So today I dropped the oil NP, then the oil filter would not come off.

I used this , with standard 1/2" ratchet 10" long.
I braced myself with both feet on the frame, nope would not move.

I used a 3' breaker bar, again with both feet on the frame for leverage.

Finally it broke loose.

rubber seal was bone dry the mechanic never put a smear of oil on it.

Just annoying to pay for having it done wrong.


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I had the same problem with my primary fuel filter. I had to borrow a ratchet filter wrench to get it off.
That is another reason to do it yourself, if you can. I have also read horror stories on this forum where some shop did not put the air filter properly and ruined the engine - a very costly blunder!
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Old 11-13-2015, 08:27 PM   #3
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Oil change DIY Vs truck stop

Speedco has been the answer for me. Search on "Speedco" and you will see mucho positives. They have a free app.
For me, 40 minutes, full oil, oil filter, fuel filters, chassis lube, oil test, $230 out the door. And I watch the whole process, verify plug torque, etc.
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Speedco has been the answer for me. Search on "Speedco" and you will see mucho positives. They have a free app.
For me, 40 minutes, full oil, oil filter, fuel filters, chassis lube, oil test, $230 out the door. And I watch the whole process, verify plug torque, etc.
You are lucky! I live in MI and there is no Speedco in MI. The closest seems to be in Indianapolis, IN, almost 400 mi away. I recently did mine, used 15 gallons for the engine and generator about $200, and all the filters including the air filters for the engine and generator were around $150 from Filter Barn.
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When I first bought my coach the first thing I did was take it to a Cummins shop for a compete service, lube, and inspection. They fixed a couple of minor issues, cost was ~$600. I said YIKES.

The next time I did it myself and had a hell of a time getting the filter off. I finally got it off but went out and bought a good strap wrench form Peterbilt.

I've done every service since the first one. I take my time and do a thorough inspection while I'm doing the entire process. I try and lube the chassis at least 2 times a year (more if we put more mileage one the coach) and at the same time I check all the critical welds etc.

After we had the coach for a couple years I thought that it was time to get the transmission oil changed and new filters, called the nearest certified Allison shop. They quoted my $650, I said Yikes again and immediately shopped on line and go the Transynd oil and filters for ~$250 >> and did the change myself.

If I went to a shop every time I needed something done on the rig I'd probably wouldn't own the coach and/or be in the poor house.
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Speedco has been the answer for me. Search on "Speedco" and you will see mucho positives. They have a free app.
For me, 40 minutes, full oil, oil filter, fuel filters, chassis lube, oil test, $230 out the door. And I watch the whole process, verify plug torque, etc.
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There are plenty of options, you just have to look around. I found a mom and pop diesel shop with a great reputation for diesel work. For $65 they change the oil/filter (I supply both), dispose of both and give it a complete lube job. Plus they welcome me in the shop, so I can wonder around and watch what is going on.
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Another vote for speedco, they talked me through the whole process and let me verify torques, etc. They aren't perfect, you need to interact with them. One guy said they didn't have the correct fuel filter, but the manager brought him one. For$250 I couldn't have done it myself because I don't have a place to do it.
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I do all my work myself. I plan ahead and do work early rather than pay for sloppy expensive workmanship on the road. I do work at home or at relatives.
I know it's done right and at 1/4 to 1/2 the cost.
I'm looking for potential problems while under the "bonnet". Example: Found 2 positive battery cables rubbing thru the insulation to a ground.
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Pretty much guarantee that in jobs such as wheel nuts, sump plugs and filters the professionals know better. Just forget the instructions and keep tightening until it won't move any further.
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I went to a Petro truck stop over the summer, first time I let a shop do it because I was on the road without drain pan etc.
So today I dropped the oil NP, then the oil filter would not come off.

I used this , with standard 1/2" ratchet 10" long.
I braced myself with both feet on the frame, nope would not move.
I used a 3' breaker bar, again with both feet on the frame for leverage.
Finally it broke loose.
rubber seal was bone dry the mechanic never put a smear of oil on it.
Just annoying to pay for having it done wrong.
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"The closest seems to be in Indianapolis, IN, almost 400 mi away."

The closest one to me is about 200 miles. I plan oil changes at 1 year intervals or if I drive more, at the 15,000 mile interval. Usually there is a Speedco that fits within those parameters
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