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Old 04-15-2014, 12:46 PM   #15
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We have the EC-30 generator auto start on our 2013 Winnebago Adventurer. The control panel is the same as the one in the picture posted by TOM222. It's programmable to be activated if shore power is lost AND the batteries go below a certain level OR the temperature exceeds or goes below preset levels.

The only caveat is that the heating/cooling system will not change states from AC to heat. If it's in the AC mode the generator will start if the temperature rises above the set point for the AC. Once the AC has reached the set point and has stabilized for more than 20 minutes the generator will shut down. If the temperature rises before the 20 minute stabilization point has been reached the generator stays on.


If the AC is in the on position and the temperature rises above the set point the generator will start. Once the power is flowing the AC will start to cool the coach. There's a delay time between when the generator starts and when the AC kicks in. It's all explained very well in the EC-30 Generator Auto Start manual.

Keep in mind the Auto start needs to be rearmed every time the coach is moved. It has a sensor that disables the auto start mode once the engine is started. It also has a motion sensor that detects movement in the coach. I can't remember the time setting but needs to sense motion in the coach before a certain time period. It's to prevent the generator from starting when the coach is in long term storage.
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Old 04-16-2014, 05:48 AM   #16
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What kind do you have? Can you post a picture please of the control panel? I am willing to purchase a system that will work.
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Here is a link to my Owners Manual check out pages 164,165,166
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Old 04-16-2014, 10:41 AM   #17
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We have the EC-30 generator auto start on our 2013 Winnebago Adventurer. The control panel is the same as the one in the picture posted by TOM222. It's programmable to be activated if shore power is lost AND the batteries go below a certain level OR the temperature exceeds or goes below preset levels.

The only caveat is that the heating/cooling system will not change states from AC to heat. If it's in the AC mode the generator will start if the temperature rises above the set point for the AC. Once the AC has reached the set point and has stabilized for more than 20 minutes the generator will shut down. If the temperature rises before the 20 minute stabilization point has been reached the generator stays on.


If the AC is in the on position and the temperature rises above the set point the generator will start. Once the power is flowing the AC will start to cool the coach. There's a delay time between when the generator starts and when the AC kicks in. It's all explained very well in the EC-30 Generator Auto Start manual.

Keep in mind the Auto start needs to be rearmed every time the coach is moved. It has a sensor that disables the auto start mode once the engine is started. It also has a motion sensor that detects movement in the coach. I can't remember the time setting but needs to sense motion in the coach before a certain time period. It's to prevent the generator from starting when the coach is in long term storage.

I read the manual (twice) even with a masters degree I just can't fully understand the set up, I guess. I set it up and unplugged the shore power after setting the A/C to where it would be out of the desired range automatically. The Genny did not start, and I can't figure out what iam doing wrong.
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This is the way the generator auto start system works in our coach. we've had it almost a year and the generator has only been started by the auto start a few times when we were dry camping. In those instances the AC was on and the inside temperature rose 2* or more above the set point. It has never been activated because of low house batteries.

In order for the generator auto start to work first it has to be activated. Ours is activated by:
1. Press the Auto Gen button once to activate the display
2. Press the Auto Gen button a second time to get the message ""Press Enter to activate Generator Auto Start"
3. Press the Enter button.

The generator will only start under the following conditions:

1. The coach is either not hooked to shore power or shore power is lost
2. The house batteries are below 12 volts.
3. The AC is in the on position and the ambient temperature is at least 2* above the set point
4. The clock on the display shows a time outside the "Quiet Time" hours.
5. There has been motion inside the coach within the last 30 days.
6. The Auto Start has been reset since the last time the coach was moved.

Note: The voltage at which the generator auto start will charge the batteries, and the quiet hours are programmable. Our parameters were preset at the factory. If there is no information for minimum voltage the auto start will not know when to start the generator.

The Auto Start will not automatically start the generator just to maintain voltage at the 120 volt house outlets. It has to see either a low battery condition, or a condition where the AC is in the on position AND temperature inside the coach has risen at least 2* above the AC set point.
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It depend on how your AGS is wired. It cost me $600. to find out that mine new MH was NOT wired that the generator would not come on if connect to shore power. There is a transformer and wiring required for it to work if connected to shore power. The wiring that is required is on pg 14, wire #13 of the owners manual. There is also a test in the manual you can do to see if you are wired correctly. http://power-prd.cummins.com/PWON/Po.../900-0541B.pdf
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This is an excellent idea, Tom222... I have read reviews stating that CG owners/managers have actually turned off power at the pedestal if they hear an A/C running and the campers aren't inside; not wanting to pay for the juice to a/c an "empty" rig! Karma being what it is, they CAN'T turn off a genset... Especially when you are paying for the fuel to run it!

If I find those reviews again, I'll link 'em! (All I know is, I won't be patronizing those CGs!)
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I read the manual (twice) even with a masters degree I just can't fully understand the set up, I guess. I set it up and unplugged the shore power after setting the A/C to where it would be out of the desired range automatically. The Genny did not start, and I can't figure out what iam doing wrong.

Thanks for the post, I will try this tomorrow!

Thanks again
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