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Old 05-25-2016, 09:38 PM   #29
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Yes both DSDP's were bought new. Both had several modifications that weren't on the regular list. Different cabinets, all hardwood, removed a couple walls and pocket doors, substituted a different vanity etc.
The Magna is a fantastic coach and should be for a sticker of 3/4 million, naturally we didn't pay anywhere near that though. CC built the DynoMax chassis in house, storage bays are fully covered inside, 4 8D AGM house batteries and room for 2 more. 4 925 CCA starting batteries, all wheel disk brakes, full heated tile floors, 220 V dryer, 3 heat pumps, AquaHot. Same wheels and tires as a Prevost, bigger engine than most etc.
But had we had any inkling of the problems both with the engine and DW's health we'd still have the '02 Dutch Star! Best rig we've ever owned.

That's great that you had such a good experience with the Dutch stars. Glad you also enjoy your current one and hope the kinks work themselves out and that those issues don't keep occurring!
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We did buy new. We found that late models with low miles/gen hrs are not that much cheaper than new. I've heard of some owners struggling with many issues on new coaches. We have been lucky and haven't experienced those type of problems. We were in Red Bay, at the factory, during the build. Tiffin allows an owner to be on the factory floor while your coach is being built. I was there for all of it! Bob Tiffin is famous for taking care of owners, often way after the warranty expires, which might help to explain why the Phaeton has been the number one selling coach in its class for several years now. We thought we wanted a Fleetwood Discovery but after some research, decided on the Phaeton. We also liked the Newmar Ventana.

We pull our car with all 4 wheels down. There is several options, we chose this because its very quick and easy.

I've noticed that too. That many used cost almost as much as new, especially with the high brand names. Yea I've seen that tiffin allows you to be there for the build and that's awesome! Thanks!
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I've noticed that too. That many used cost almost as much as new, especially with the high brand names. Yea I've seen that tiffin allows you to be there for the build and that's awesome! Thanks!
As does Newmar.
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The higher end Winnebago coaches may be worth considering also. I have owned two. My wife and I love the 40 TD floor plan which is why we bought our current coach. Winnebago is the only builder I have seen with this style of floor plan. Living room is mid coach and the recliners actually face the entertainment system (tv). It only has 2 slides but they are very long and opposing in the living room. Some builders do make mid coach floor plans but the couches are sideways to the TV. I bought a 2007 to stay away from the problematic DPF systems and was the last year Winnebago offered a side radiator. Sadly the floor plan is not made anymore. I believe 2009 was the last.
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Old 05-25-2016, 10:58 PM   #33
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We live in Nacogdoches, TX and a few years ago had a 5th wheel and dodge diesel to pull it. Old age and poor physical condition caught up with me so didn't use the RV except as a guest house. Both truck and trailer are now gone but not our want to travel. We started looking at foretravel naturally, but those are out of our price range except ones not having slides. Those are great coaches but we wanted a slide. Motorhomes of Texas have a wonderful staff with great people skills. We looked at several MH's as you should. Drove several. Shopped PPL in Houston twice. Not a good experience. We didn't want to spend $150 thou and find out we didn't like the life, so limited our looking to $50 thou tops. We found a really nice MH owned by an individual who had recently lost her husband to C. Drove it, bought it. Love it. Spent another $3 thou on towing equipment. Took our first trip last weekend and heading to the coast this coming weekend.
The 5th wheel is a lot of work in my opinion, especially for someone my age and shape. If you and hubby are young and healthy that wouldn't be a problem. I am so much more comfortable driving our 38' Monaco than the 5th wheel combination it isn't even funny. Disconnecting the toad (and connecting) is a relatively simple operation. Hooking up shore power and water/sewer is easy. We couldn't be happier so far.
Watch out for scams on Craigslist. I ran across two. If it sounds too good to be true, it's probably a SCAM!
The more you look the more likely you are to get discouraged. Keep at it, drive as many in your price range as possible and you will find your house on wheels. Good luck, Mike
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We live in Nacogdoches, TX and a few years ago had a 5th wheel and dodge diesel to pull it. Old age and poor physical condition caught up with me so didn't use the RV except as a guest house. Both truck and trailer are now gone but not our want to travel. We started looking at foretravel naturally, but those are out of our price range except ones not having slides. Those are great coaches but we wanted a slide. Motorhomes of Texas have a wonderful staff with great people skills. We looked at several MH's as you should. Drove several. Shopped PPL in Houston twice. Not a good experience. We didn't want to spend $150 thou and find out we didn't like the life, so limited our looking to $50 thou tops. We found a really nice MH owned by an individual who had recently lost her husband to C. Drove it, bought it. Love it. Spent another $3 thou on towing equipment. Took our first trip last weekend and heading to the coast this coming weekend.

The 5th wheel is a lot of work in my opinion, especially for someone my age and shape. If you and hubby are young and healthy that wouldn't be a problem. I am so much more comfortable driving our 38' Monaco than the 5th wheel combination it isn't even funny. Disconnecting the toad (and connecting) is a relatively simple operation. Hooking up shore power and water/sewer is easy. We couldn't be happier so far.

Watch out for scams on Craigslist. I ran across two. If it sounds too good to be true, it's probably a SCAM!

The more you look the more likely you are to get discouraged. Keep at it, drive as many in your price range as possible and you will find your house on wheels. Good luck, Mike

Thanks mike for all the advice and info you have shared. We started off wanting a 5th wheeler and then transitions through so many different ones and decided the class a is what we will want. Def will shop around. Thanks!!
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Our 3rd MH (current one) is an Entegra Anthem. Wouldn't trade it for the world (ok maybe an Entegra Cornerstone!) .... Entegra is great on their customer service. If you have a problem and are anywhere in the country, they will get you to the place to fix the problem, or send someone out to do it. Since you are new to the "lifestyle" ... focus on the customer service of the manufacturer as well as floor plan, etc. That is my advice for what it's worth. Lynn
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Newmar owner here. Have owned 4 gassers in the past and now own a 2004 Newmar DSDP 4011 which we bought 10 years old, with 30K miles.

Hands down, the Newmar is the best MH we have owned. The fit, finish and structure quality is unmatched in its price range.

I would never buy a MH new nor would I ever buy a MH from a dealer. When a dealer is talking, he/she is lying. I buy from the owner who has driven and maintained the MH.

The Spartan chassis is outstanding and the side radiator is great when it is time for maintenance. The Cummins ISL is bulletproof. Full body paint is the way to go. I buy MH's that have been stored inside when not on the road.

Good Luck. Buy used and keep the $200 grand worth of depreciation in your pocket!!

The above is purley my opinion with no warranty expressed or implied!
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