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Old 09-16-2019, 02:19 PM   #1
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Hi all ---

I hope you can give me some input and guidance. We have a 2003 Holiday Rambler Vacationer that is in darn good mechanical condition.

My problem is the factory white paint. It has chalked and comes off when washed. I've got the vertical aluminum starting to bleed through in numerous places. It makes the coach look like crap. The decals and other painted places are in darn good shape.

Does anyone have any idea what has happened to the white paint? I know the thing will have to repainted --- esp. the white painted areas.
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It is called oxidation. Major cause is UV rays [Sun]. If the paint is so thin that you are getting see thru, the only option is paint. A good buff and wax will slow the process of the oxidation and may make it look better. If you do repaint make sure you use a quality clear coat that has UV filters. Some do some don't.
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Are you sure it's painted and not just gel coat?
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Are you sure it's painted and not just gel coat?
That is a good question. How do you tell the difference because I don't have a clue?
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My guess is if it is white it is not paint. As a general rule most trailers for example are white with decals. That white is not paint.
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Are you sure it's painted and not just gel coat?


Since op said it was aluminum Id say its painted.
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Since op said it was aluminum Id say its painted.
Agreed, but what kind of automotive paint turns to dust and sloughs off?

This sure sounds like what we see with old boat hulls.

A couple of photos would help.
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Wondering what you mean by vertical aluminum . Are you talking about alum trim around a slide out or door ? I might be off here but doesn't that coach have fiberglass sides or frp ? Either way, if it is truly faded thru to where you are seeing any substrate then it will need to be re coated.
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Wondering what you mean by vertical aluminum . Are you talking about alum trim around a slide out or door ? I might be off here but doesn't that coach have fiberglass sides or frp ? Either way, if it is truly faded thru to where you are seeing any substrate then it will need to be re coated.


Some HR brands had aluminum sides and roof.
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I would bet it's fiberglass siding with gelcoat and gelcoat does oxidize and wash off when you wash the coach/boat.
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Some HR brands had aluminum sides and roof.

My 2000 HR Endeavor had aluminium framing in the walls and roof and the exterior was gel coat with stickers.
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Paint problems

This is to answer your questions and comments regarding the sidewalls on my 2003 HR. The sidewalls are aluminum thankfully. I know this because there are the nice straight rows of rivets where they attached the aluminum plates to the aluminum frame. Also, where the paint is thin I can see the aluminum shining through. The roof is aluminum. The end caps are fiberglass.

I think part of my paint job has failed and is at the end of its life. This is the white color I have mentioned. Yes, I do believe it has oxidized. I have no gel coat.

I hope this clarifies some questions and comments previously made. I think my only solution is have the white repainted and make sure they use a clear coat with uv protection. The only reason I would consider a paint job on this old a coach is because she is in excellent condition with low miles.

There is another option. I could remove what is left of the paint and polish the aluminum and then seal it from the elements. I/We would definitely have a unique coach then. Wonder how it would look?
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All of the dead paint needs to be removed before you apply new paint.

Go to your local airport and find the shop that paints planes. They have a spray-on stripper that will remove that old paint properly, and quickly.

They can also guide you about what primer/paint can be used on aluminum.
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Any body shop can address the issue. Does not need to be for airplanes...
If it's paint, it needs to be stripped / sanded off. Then, cleaned, primed and painted.

Yes, you could polish the aluminum. It too is a lot of work. Has to be stripped, and sanded with progressively finer wet sandpaper and then compounded / polished.

If you are going to DIY the job, go to your local auto paint distributor and get the chemical set from them. Aluminum is a very normal thing to paint. No biggie.

Pretty straightforward but always a lot of labor. Auto paint (what should be used) is not inexpensive either. But you get a brand new looking coach after it's all done.
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