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Old 12-21-2011, 07:18 PM   #1
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Power Gear levelers on my 2000 Discovery extend both front and both rear jacks to level front to back but then allow only the right and left rear jacks to level side to side. I guess that is the std operation for power gear but it seems to me that that puts a lot of twist torque on the frame. The HWH leverlers I had on my former coach allowed both front, both rear, both right and both left to level and it worked great. Any thoughts about the thinking behind the power gear arrangement? Do I need to be careful not to try to level too much right and left?
Thanks for the input - Harv
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:42 PM   #2
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Same for my coach. Seems a bit illogical to me compared to the HWH system.
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Old 12-21-2011, 07:44 PM   #3
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Any thoughts about the thinking behind the power gear arrangement? Do I need to be careful not to try to level too much right and left?
Marv, I'm wouldn't be too concerned about it if this is the "Norm" for your system. Yes the HWH system was different, you're right but it is what it is.

I saw you're from Parker, CO. Max49, one of the long time members here, I believe is also from Parker.
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That is the normal operation of the jacks. We were a Fleetwood dealer and had no problem with frame torque or twist.
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That is the normal operation of the jacks. We were a Fleetwood dealer and had no problem with frame torque or twist.
So, do they compensate somehow? I generally level front to back first, then side to side with the back jacks.
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:40 PM   #6
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Did some searching on different irv2 forums and found out that when the RR jack, for instance, is extended for level, the front two jacks extend and retract equally to compensate thereby leveling the front. Clear as mud? Anyway, they expained it a little better but if you think about it, it works.
Thanks for the help from one and all and to one and all --- "MERRY CHRISTMAS"
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:18 PM   #7
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They must have changed this in later years then. My 2005 with Power Gear jacks will allow me to level side to side with both the front and the rear.

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Power Gear levelers on my 2000 Discovery extend both front and both rear jacks to level front to back but then allow only the right and left rear jacks to level side to side. I guess that is the std operation for power gear but it seems to me that that puts a lot of twist torque on the frame....text deleted- Harv
Works on the same principal as the system with only one jack in the front as the left and right jack cylinders are plumbed to the same pump. Therefore, when you extend the right rear jack, the left front jack can retract and the right front jack can extend the same amount. This prevents twist torque on the frame...provided that you extended the front jacks sufficiently before operating the rear jacks. If you don't extend those front jacks first, you will have twist torque on the frame.
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The HWH leverlers I had on my former coach allowed both front, both rear, both right and both left to level and it worked great. Any thoughts about the thinking behind the power gear arrangement?
HWH is a FAR better system.
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I own a 2001 discovery. My manual states : extend front jacks 3 inches after they touch the ground. This allows for pivot. My jacks are the same as OP. If I level side to side only the rear jacks extend. I always level side to side first and then front to back. This compensates for the rear jacks only leveling side to side. I have found that if I level front to back first it is harder to level the coach because the rear jacks always raise one corner. Any one else have this problem leveling front to back first?
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I have had both, but the Power Gear is automatic and the HWH were manual. I have read the pros and cons of both systems and each has its proponents. Since it's not likely that I am going to be changing my PGs for something else, they are my current favorite.
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There is no torquing on the frame because the front jacks are connected together with a "T" fitting so they work like a 3-jack system, Though I can tell you I like the 4-jacks of the Power gear system far better than a 3 jack system for assorted reasons (Mostly the fact that the two front jacks attach on the main frame rails.. Very very strong.. Where as the single center jack of the 3-jack system hooks to a much weaker cross bar)

But try this: Extend the jacks 1/2 the way to the ground and stop.. Now take a floor jack and slide it under ONE of the jacks (Or just put it there in advance) Jack the floor jack up and see if the other side front jack does not further "Extend" as the one you are lifting is pushed up? Bet it does.
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