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Old 09-21-2013, 12:33 PM   #1
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Pre Purchase Jitters

I have a temporary deposit on a 2001 Newmar Dutch Star 3852 for $50K. It has a Spartan chassis, 330hp Cummins & Allison MH3000 6 spd trans. It is a one owner coach w/ 97K miles and all service records. Six new Michelins last year. My questions?
What should I inspect on this coach? IFS problems? Recalls? Should I be concerned about mileage at 97K (versus a coach w/ 50K)? This has the Brite Tek roof versus Aluminum? Owner input much appreciated. Thank you. Ed
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Old 09-21-2013, 12:45 PM   #2
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My 02 dynasty 42' with tag has ISL 400 cummins and just turned 92K I had it to cummins care for a loose ground wire issue and the service manager drove it and looked at my vmspc data screen and said well its just about broke in now you can really put miles on it. If it has been maintained mile are no big thing.

Do you have norcold 4 door 1200rim check it for amonia leaks and that the manditory recall has been done and is at the latest rev I think its is E or so.

When was oil and filters changed, when was air filter changed, have brake pads been done has the exhaust brake been serviced. How many hours on gen when was it serviced?

Does SO like the layout and is the mattress comfortable

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Old 09-21-2013, 12:46 PM   #3
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Service records, is the big thing at that mileage. New tires , that got another base covered.
Roof and body seams and component operation, ( fridge , A/C , gen set , dash air )
JMHO , sounds like you found a keeper. Price and condition , that's what I'd be looking for.
Can't comment on the Spartan IFS. Sorry.
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From here, it sounds like a good deal. Go for it and enjoy the ride
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:33 PM   #5
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I have a temporary deposit on a 2001 Newmar Dutch Star 3852 for $50K...... ...... Owner input much appreciated. Thank you. Ed
If you've had previous RVs and know a trustworthy RV tech, pay him for his time to come with you to check it out thoroughly. Someone independent of the dealer, if possible. Or maybe you have a friend who has RV experience, and your friend knows a good RV mechanic. Anyway, paying an expert for a checkout is a good move that could save your butt, or just let you sleep at night. It cost me $$ some hundreds to pay my guy for three different inspections. Some of the best dollars I ever spent while shopping.
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I definately agree that you should have an RV tech check it out. And I'll almost guarantee it'll need ball joints, because the early year Spartan chassis's had a major problem with dry rotting boots. It didn't stop me from getting my 2000 Dutch Star, I just negotiated the replacement in the price. It's about a $2,000 fix.
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We bought our 2000 MADP in April for $51K. It also had 93,000 miles on a 350 Cummins. Since then, we have traveled 4,500 miles and spent about 50 nights at different spots in the southeast.Problems have been few. The largest expense so far was a complete service we had done to start with fresh fluids.
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Thank you all. I will employ a tech prior to final decision. I was familiar w/ ball joint issue from recall data. BTW what is MADP (DP is diesel pusher) Thanks. Ed
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Thank you all. I will employ a tech prior to final decision. I was familiar w/ ball joint issue from recall data. BTW what is MADP (DP is diesel pusher) Thanks. Ed
MADP is a MountainAire DP. Newmar considers it in the luxury class and it is a little above the Dutch Star. Small differences in components and price with MADP being higher.
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Thank you all. I will employ a tech prior to final decision. I was familiar w/ ball joint issue from recall data. BTW what is MADP (DP is diesel pusher) Thanks. Ed

MADP is the Mountain Air Diesel Pusher; another model in Newmar's line.
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Valve cover bolts broken off in cylinder head. Service bulletin was issued for new design bolts at #$27 each.

HWH pump with case ground motor. Cheap $115 fix to replace yourself, with negative terminal and cable to common ground.

Possible algae in fuel tank if it has been sitting a while.

Hydraulic hose leak.

Already mentioned ball joints were replaced and alignment performed.

New tires...but varying date codes adding several years.

Leaking front air bags.

Corroded plug on A/C to heat pump reversing valve.

Sulfated batteries.

Burned inverter AC current pass-thru board.

Burned out windshield washer pump.

Corroded wire connections to starter solenoid.

Not much else...nickel dime stuff.

PS - I bought mine 18 months ago with 21k miles.
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It's a Newmar something to be proud of enjoy it.
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Old 10-03-2013, 06:50 AM   #13
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OK - MADP. Will remember. Still looking and driving coaches. Every drive I learn more.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:20 PM   #14
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I have a 2002 Dutchstar 3852 with the 330 kitty and a Freightliner chassis. I have been very pleased with the coach. At this age you can expect some repairs and maintenance. Newmar builds an incredible coach and their customer service is tops! Sounds like a very good price to me. I paid upper 60's about 15 months ago with 58,000 miles and now have 73,000 on it. I have benefitted from having a Good SAMs extended warranty. You may want to consider this as a part of your purchase.
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