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Old 10-17-2016, 10:41 PM   #15
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Be sure and get the model with the remote control/display. Its nice to be able to see the voltage, freqs, amp load, and error codes, without having to access the unit itself.

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Old 10-18-2016, 05:24 AM   #16
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I am still a newbie to the RV world having owned my Class A motorhome for one year and I am getting over whelmed with making the right decisions on buying items such as the best: Roadside service; TPMS, insurance, whether to get an extended warranty, and now which is the best surge protector. I have decided to go with the Progressive brand (because of the lifetime warranty) and I understand that different systems provide different levels of protection, that you will pay for. My question to those of you that have much more knowledge and experience than I do is: Would I be adequately covered for electrical protection by going with the Progressive SSP-XL 50 amp unit at a cost of $ 119.00 or do I need to spend the extra dollars to get the more expensive EMS-PTC 50C unit at $ 325.00? It sounds like the SSP-XL provides more than just surge protection and maybe would give me the basic protection I need, without having to break the bank? I would greatly appreciate any input or advice from those with more experience than I.
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Been there and doing that...trying to read and buy what is best for our rig but also trying to spend our money once for something we know we need to do. I hate it when I buy something only later find out I should of spent a little more and gotten XYZ. This decision was very important to us to protect all types of power situations. When we had our trailer we used a portable unit but now with our 50amp service MH, we decided to go with a hard wired unit, mainly (but not limited to) because you install it once and forget it and it's inside your locked storage bay. With a portable dog bone type unit—while you're gone— someone can just unplug it from the CC power pole and steal it plus it doesn't offer the features a hard wired unit does. I just installed this EMS-HW50C unit on our newly acquired MH last week.
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The EMS-HW50C box itself is a little tight to get those heavy wires mounted in there. I wish they would of made it about an 1" bigger all the way around inside which would of made installing those big, thick 50 amp wires a lot easier to fish through and install. But I got it done. One last thing, I wish I had also (while I was at it) put the entire power cord on a reel. I'm going to go back and do that at some point. It'll make that storage bay have a lot more room when we pull up and leave camp.
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Old 10-18-2016, 01:49 PM   #17
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I just purchased the Progressive EMSHC--50a. Where do most users install the remote monitor. My install is below the bedroom and hot water heater maybe run the cable up and into the bedroom area? Any other suggestions?
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I mounted my remote display in the bay. I bought that unit because I wanted the bypass switch and at some point I will install a second display in the coach.
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Old 10-19-2016, 10:34 AM   #19
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You definitely want the $300 + Progressive Industries EMS! It protects you against everything! Cheapest insurance you will ever buy!
2x above. I have the more expensive Progressive Industries EMS and would never connect to a power source without it. When we had a TT, I forgot to unplug from our shed and the cord was hit by lightning. Several thousand $ later, . . . . Yes, the less expensive model would probably have protected against that, but not the more common CG power pole problems mentioned in other posts. Spend the extra $ and go on to worry about other things.
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I have the HW50C and as stated before it monitors several important parameters. On the monitor I have mine in my hall way near the rest of the gauges, I want to go by and read the parameters and see how everything is working. I had a friend mount the monitor in his bedroom and the blinking monitor keep his wife up at night so he had to make a cover for it to block the light.
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I had the HW50C in a 5th wheel and it even tripped out when I tried several time to power up the RV with the electric hot water heater turned on with no water in it. So quick there was no damage to the heater. When we bought our DP the HW50C came with us.
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:29 PM   #22
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When we bought our coach it had the hard wired Surge Guard 50 amp unit. Is there a compelling argument to upgrade to the Progressive Industries unit?
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:56 PM   #23
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Our external unit has been damaged by surge (it has a protection circuit which "blows" with a really big surge) requiring factory replacement and once by water and in both cases was speedily replaced by Progressive. We even got a nice letter from Progessives president on the last blow out explaining the circumstances. They paid the shipping too.
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I just purchased the Progressive EMSHC--50a. Where do most users install the remote monitor. My install is below the bedroom and hot water heater maybe run the cable up and into the bedroom area? Any other suggestions?
The remote display is most useful when you are plugging in the coach and flipping the breaker. I would mount it where you can see it from the campground electric pedestal.
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I will use the analogy of the LifeLock commercial seen on TV of the bank robbery - "Oh, I am not a security guard, I am just a security monitor. Why monitor a problem if you can't fix it?"

One device just monitors electrical problems - SSP-50XL - and does NOTHING to fix it.

The second device, EMS-PT50C, monitors electrical problems AND fixes the situation by disconnecting your coach from ANY problem that could harm your RV electrical system.

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Just like playing the lottery- every great once in a while someone wins (or looses in the case of a damaging surge). I use a tester ($35) that instantly tests all the wiring and displays the voltages of both phases. It is better to test the power pedistal before plugging in. Here is a link to an inexpensive Digital meter nightlight you can just keep plugged in your RV to monitor line voltage ($10):

https://www.amazon.com/Yeeco-Voltmet...voltage+tester

Low or sagging voltage is hard on motors, air conditioners/heatpumps and residential refrigerators as it makes them run much hotter, but rarely does it hurt anything else as other electronic equipment power supplies are generally designed to handle 90-140 volts anymore. Surges generally are limited to damaging your microwave, or possibly your older power converter as all new TVs and equipment have switching power supplies. My Tiffin RV has a surge suppressor built in- but really they are becoming less and less necessary. That's why you don't see them installed on sticks and bricks homes.

That's what my 37 years as an Electrical Enginner and Electronics Tech has shown. However - there is a definite benefit to feeling safe and secure and for many people these well designed surge suppressors/ voltage monitors provide a that extra level of security.
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Just like playing the lottery- every great once in a while someone wins (or looses in the case of a damaging surge). I use a tester ($35) that instantly tests all the wiring and displays the voltages of both phases. It is better to test the power pedistal before plugging in. Here is a link to an inexpensive Digital meter nightlight you can just keep plugged in your RV to monitor line voltage ($10):

https://www.amazon.com/Yeeco-Voltmet...voltage+tester

Low or sagging voltage is hard on motors, air conditioners/heatpumps and residential refrigerators as it makes them run much hotter, but rarely does it hurt anything else as other electronic equipment power supplies are generally designed to handle 90-140 volts anymore. Surges generally are limited to damaging your microwave, or possibly your older power converter as all new TVs and equipment have switching power supplies. My Tiffin RV has a surge suppressor built in- but really they are becoming less and less necessary. That's why you don't see them installed on sticks and bricks homes.

That's what my 37 years as an Electrical Enginner and Electronics Tech has shown. However - there is a definite benefit to feeling safe and secure and for many people these well designed surge suppressors/ voltage monitors provide a that extra level of security.

The biggest issue that I Always feared in a 50 amp RV is an open or floating neutral. I figure that if I can spend a few hundred buck to save my 3 a/c units, microwave, frig and assorted other appliances then it's worthwhile. Not to mention the time and energy expended in getting everything fixed.
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The biggest issue that I Always feared in a 50 amp RV is an open or floating neutral. I figure that if I can spend a few hundred buck to save my 3 a/c units, microwave, frig and assorted other appliances then it's worthwhile. Not to mention the time and energy expended in getting everything fixed.

True that!
I have had 4 open neutral issues detected by the PI unit, all quickly repaired by the park techs. Also, 1 power transformer explosion, 2 low voltage issues, and 2 high frequency issues.
This stuff saves time and $
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