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Old 11-18-2018, 06:47 PM   #1
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Propane Refill

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No “training” here, it’s not exactly rocket science.
Somehow the words "We don't need no education" keep coming to mind.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:20 PM   #2
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Sometimes I think "Learning to Fly" is way much more appropriate.
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:22 PM   #3
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Guess the bus left without me_. What is your question???
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Wasn't this thread a lot longer at one point?
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Old 11-18-2018, 11:17 PM   #5
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That was another 'propane fill' thread where a UK poster noted that in Europe propane is dispensed by anyone/everyone cause there are more propane fueled vehicles.


Posted stated no training required.......it ain't rocket science



So this thread is an 'off shoot' ...new story line....a repeat with a twist
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That was another 'propane fill' thread where a UK poster noted that in Europe propane is dispensed by anyone/everyone cause there are more propane fueled vehicles.


Posted stated no training required.......it ain't rocket science



So this thread is an 'off shoot' ...new story line....a repeat with a twist
Thanks I thought senility had set in.
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Not sure about what type nozzle they use, but at one point I was driving patrol cars with LP tanks and the filling system for those were very simple to operate. Totally different than filling our type tanks.
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The training needed to fill RV tanks (whether fixed tanks or DOT portable bottles) is about 3 minutes of "how to" and a 15 minute safety lecture.
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The training needed to fill RV tanks (whether fixed tanks or DOT portable bottles) is about 3 minutes of "how to" and a 15 minute safety lecture.
Wow! 18 whole minutes. Apparently a majority of the people I have watched (and I always watch) service my propane never got their 18 minutes or they slept through it.
I have seen it all. Well, I hope I never see it ALL. We may never survive seeing it all.
One memorable time was a guy pumping propane into my coach at a Pilot/Flying J who never touched the Overflow/80%/spitter valve. I asked him a few pertinent questions and received unsatisfactory answers. He also wore no eye or hand protection.
Although he claimed he had been trained and had serviced "hundreds" of motorhomes before he had no idea what the valve was or how to use it. I haven't been back to a Pilot/Flying J since.
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My last 2 fills at Flying J were without opening the bleed valve.

U Haul has opened it when filling.

Could be their policy to depend on the overfill valve, rather then escaping liquid, as a full indicator.

I understand that using the bleed valve is the proper way, but is it a requirement by some regulation ?
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That's a good question. My experience and training tells me a safety device is to be incorporated as a redundancy back up to a primary device performing the same basic function in case of a mechanical or "human" malfunction aka as "operator error."
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The necessary training may be brief, but that doesn't mean the idiots won't sleep through it or promptly forget it once they get the "LP trained" ticky-mark by their name.
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I got a BBQ grill cylinder filled today trying to get ready to grill our turkey for Thanksgiving. It was 35 degrees outside and the propane expert came sauntering outside to the propane pump wearing a short sleeve shirt. He grabbed my cylinder and started to connect the hose to it. I asked "what, no gloves, eye protection or anything?" He said "Nope, ain't required and I hate those silly gloves".
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I got a BBQ grill cylinder filled today trying to get ready to grill our turkey for Thanksgiving. It was 35 degrees outside and the propane expert came sauntering outside to the propane pump wearing a short sleeve shirt. He grabbed my cylinder and started to connect the hose to it. I asked "what, no gloves, eye protection or anything?" He said "Nope, ain't required and I hate those silly gloves".
If he screws up and sprays himself in the face somebody has got to stop the uncontrolled and uncontained spray. Frost bite of the hands may not totally incapacitate him but frost bite of the eyeballs most definitely will. It will be up to you to stop it unless you go inside to find someone else to do it. That will take time.
If he's servicing your 20# cylinder that's one thing. If he's servicing your motorhome that's another thing entirely. As a full timer that putz is jeopardizing my home by ignoring safety practices regarding a fuel source as important as the safety practices regarding ignition sources inside the coach as well as those burners on the furnaces and refrigerator.
Based on what I have learned researching this subject I intend to insist that anyone servicing my coach follow ALL safety practices including the wearing of proper eye and hand protection. If he balks I will walk inside and discuss it with the manager. If I don't get cooperation and compliance I will go somewhere else. It's my coach, my money and my decision.
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