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Old 08-05-2013, 01:17 AM   #71
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My understanding is that California is one of the few states the require a class c or non commercial b to driver a motorhome. Utah , Arizona and many other states only require a class d to drive a motorhome. No reason for a commercial license to drive something that is for personal use.
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Old 08-06-2013, 02:17 PM   #72
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In Arizona and Utah you are only required to have a class D license to drive a class A motorhome, because it is not considered a commercial vehicle. I believe however that Utah does require a motorhome endorsement on your license.


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WRONG! If you have a Texas Drivers License, Texas law applies to your license requirements....
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In Arizona and Utah you are only required to have a class D license to drive a class A motorhome, because it is not considered a commercial vehicle. I believe however that Utah does require a motorhome endorsement on your license.
That's if you have an Arizona or Utah license. You need to meet the requirements in the state you're licensed in. In fact, many states don't have anything called a Class D license. In Texas it's a Class C.
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Christian51,

I hope all the information for all of the "other" states has helped you in your endeavor to obtain a "Texas" driver's license. Be assured that every time questions come up regarding a states licensing requirements, the preponderance of information will be for states "other" then the one the person is trying to obtain information on.

If you wait until after the middle of September, I'll drive down to FL and drive the MH back for you under "personal use." I'll drive a strait line back, just a few stops on the way to check everything out and make sure you have a good and running product when I park it at your house.

Happy trails.

p.s., I'll even provide my own tow bar and I'll just have to cut into the air system a little for the Air Force One system on the TOAD.
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I am a resident of Utah. Utah, Idaho, Oregon, Washington, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico all have the class D Driver License. National the Class D is know as a standard drivers license. Class C is for commercial. In the states I have mentioned, you can drive any vehicle up to 25,000 LBS on a class D license. Anything over 25,000 LBS requires a commercial license.
Utah and Arizona consider it a waste of time and money to require CDL for something that is used for non commercial purposes. They feel very strongly about this. That's why Arizona has more snowbirds thn any other state in the nation. Arizona is a fun and fascinating place. That's why I'll keep myself licensed here.

No offense, but I have never been to Texas nor do I have a desire to go.





QUOTE=Wayne M;1674871]Christian51,

I hope all the information for all of the "other" states has helped you in your endeavor to obtain a "Texas" driver's license. Be assured that every time questions come up regarding a states licensing requirements, the preponderance of information will be for states "other" then the one the person is trying to obtain information on.

If you wait until after the middle of September, I'll drive down to FL and drive the MH back for you under "personal use." I'll drive a strait line back, just a few stops on the way to check everything out and make sure you have a good and running product when I park it at your house.

Happy trails.

p.s., I'll even provide my own tow bar and I'll just have to cut into the air system a little for the Air Force One system on the TOAD.[/QUOTE]
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I am a resident of Utah. Utah, Idaho, Oregon, Washington, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico all have the class D Driver License. National the Class D is know as a standard drivers license. Class C is for commercial. In the states I have mentioned, you can drive any vehicle up to 25,000 LBS on a class D license. Anything over 25,000 LBS requires a commercial license.
Wow. Maybe it's an east/west thing. I've lived in NY, MA, VA, MD, CA, and TX. I think all of them call a standard passenger license a Class C. There is no standard "national" designation. A CDL is a CDL. It's not a specific class. There are CDL A, B, and C licenses.

In the states I'm familiar with, the cutoff for an upgraded license is 26,000, not 25,000. And I don't know of any state (except maybe Nevada?) that requires a CDL for the larger vehicles. Of the ones that do, most (not all) of them require a non-CDL Class B. I think there's a few that have a special RV designation.
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I am a resident of Utah. Utah, Idaho, Oregon, Washington, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico all have the class D Driver License. National the Class D is know as a standard drivers license. Class C is for commercial. In the states I have mentioned, you can drive any vehicle up to 25,000 LBS on a class D license. Anything over 25,000 LBS requires a commercial license.
Utah and Arizona consider it a waste of time and money to require CDL for something that is used for non commercial purposes. They feel very strongly about this. That's why Arizona has more snowbirds thn any other state in the nation. Arizona is a fun and fascinating place. That's why I'll keep myself licensed here.

No offense, but I have never been to Texas nor do I have a desire to go.
I'm sorry, but what exactly is your point? Sorry you don't want to come to Texas because like Utah it is a beautiful State. All of the States have their own beauty. I'm sure glad that I want to visit them all.

Might bump into you some day and share a drink or two.

Happy trails.
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Again you mentioned California, but not Utah, Arizona or the western states. I myself have lived in almost all the states I mentioned. Had to apply for a license in these state. I can see why states on the east coast would require the B license. The east coast has such a traffic problem, it's better to require it for big rig drivers. But out here in the west, you can drive for days on end before you even come to a single town, especially in Alaska!!! I beileve CA was one of the first states to require a class B license to drive a motorhome. Now others have followed suit.



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Wow. Maybe it's an east/west thing. I've lived in NY, MA, VA, MD, CA, and TX. I think all of them call a standard passenger license a Class C. There is no standard "national" designation. A CDL is a CDL. It's not a specific class. There are CDL A, B, and C licenses.

In the states I'm familiar with, the cutoff for an upgraded license is 26,000, not 25,000. And I don't know of any state (except maybe Nevada?) that requires a CDL for the larger vehicles. Of the ones that do, most (not all) of them require a non-CDL Class B. I think there's a few that have a special RV designation.
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In California you don't need a class B to drive an RV. But I would say to the people that are saying you can get away with it, that you can only get away with it if you don't get pulled over. I rode a motorcycle for years without a MC license until I got caught, then I had to pay a fine and get the MC license.
Yup, in California you need a B non com. License if your rv is 40 ft or longer. 39'11" just your C will do.
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insurance company runs your license when you buy the insurance. They KNOW what license you have. I believe my attorney would have a field day with the insurance company if they refused to pay for something they had knowledge
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In ca. You can buy a 45' barge, park at house, buy good insurance and as long as you don't drive, no laws broken! And yes you can buy a big rig while having a non CDL and as long as you don't drive, no laws broken! Sorry about this, just rambling!
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Utah and Arizona consider it a waste of time and money to require CDL for something that is used for non commercial purposes. They feel very strongly about this. That's why Arizona has more snowbirds thn any other state in the nation. Arizona is a fun and fascinating place. That's why I'll keep myself licensed here.
Err, the last time I checked, Arizona required a CDL for anything over 26,000#

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The Full AZ DOT publication on Driving Licenses is below - see "Classes of Driving License"
http://www.brbpublications.com/subsc...ents/demoz.pdf

A commercial driver license (CDL) is required for drivers of heavyweight vehicles, 26,001 lbs. or more gross vehicle weight (GVW), vehicles hauling a trailer that is 10,001 lbs. (GVWR)or more where the combined weight is 26,001 lbs or more, vehicles capable of carrying 16 or more passengers (including the driver), or vehicles required to be placarded for hazardous material.
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I was expecting AZ to have an exemption for RVs from the CDL requirement, and have a non-CDL Class A or B license available. But searching through the AZ DOT website, I can't find any reference to a license exemption at all. That makes AZ a very RV non-friendly state in my book.

cimplexsound - can you provide a link to any AZ gov website that shows an exemption to the section quoted in post #81? I can't.
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Wow. Maybe it's an east/west thing. I've lived in NY, MA, VA, MD, CA, and TX. I think all of them call a standard passenger license a Class C. There is no standard "national" designation. A CDL is a CDL. It's not a specific class. There are CDL A, B, and C licenses.

In the states I'm familiar with, the cutoff for an upgraded license is 26,000, not 25,000. And I don't know of any state (except maybe Nevada?) that requires a CDL for the larger vehicles. Of the ones that do, most (not all) of them require a non-CDL Class B. I think there's a few that have a special RV designation.
Well in West Virginia the standard non-commercial license is Class E. You can drive anything on this license as long as the vehicle is non-commercial, not for hire, or a bus. The 26,000# limit only applies to commercial vehicles.
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[QUOTE=steveclv;1660024] in Florida you can drive ANY Recreational Vehicle on a regular license.
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Wisconsin also!
Because of "reciprocity agreements" between the states, my "regular" WI class D drivers license is honored/legal in ALL states...
It is legal for me to drive any coach in every state, (regardless of equipment, weight and/or length).
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