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Old 09-20-2015, 12:37 PM   #1
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Purchase help with decison of several units

We are going to look at a 2006 Winnebago Voyage 38J in a week that we are interested in buying. Gas, 3 slides 38 ft. Has about 60000 miles on it, good tires batteries and all options work. We are trying to decide on several models including this one. Other are a 2004 Damon intruder 350, gas and 2 slides, and a 2003 newmar mountainaire 3778, gas with 2 slides 38 ft. , a 2002 newmar country star 36668 diesel 37 ft.
All of these have floor plans we like and are in the basic same ball park for costs. None with excessive mileage and all features we are wanting.
What I need is input into which coaches are better quality and better longetivity in usage. We are new to this and its our first coach. Any input will be helpful. This is a big decision and we want all input we can get. Thanks everyone.
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Old 09-20-2015, 12:52 PM   #2
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The Newmars are the highest quality. Just decide if you want gas or diesel. If budget allows go diesel.
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The Newmars are the highest quality. Just decide if you want gas or diesel. If budget allows go diesel.
I agree!
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Old 09-20-2015, 03:39 PM   #4
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I have a 3 slide Itasca 35A on a WH 22K chassis. I'm just about maxed out on GVW, when loaded for 6 months snowbird travel. I wouldn't even consider the Winnebago, unless it was on the 24K chassis.
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Old 09-20-2015, 07:07 PM   #5
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Go Newmar in a heartbeat. Went to factory last month. They have about 20 full hookups for owners waiting in line for service. ALL were empty. Either the factory gives really quick service or the things don't break.

We love our Newmar. 2005 with 39,000 miles on it.
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Old 09-20-2015, 07:22 PM   #6
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I do not think it matters if you do your due diligence.

If all of the coaches are in good shape (inspected by a competent third party tech and mechanic) it will come down to the best price point you can negotiate and the one you prefer the most.

They all will age and break down. Many times it seems like luck but you will have to be cognizant of the little things that need to be repaired before they become big.

Tires are a concern right from the start. Tires that are over 5 years old are getting close to being replaced. It is important to know the overall condition you will be getting.
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The newmar sounds like the best option.
60000 miles on a 06 with a gas is getting up there.
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Even the tire companies don't recommend replacing tires at 5 years although they do say that older tires have more chances or needing replacing than newer ones. In fact most tire companies say to absolutely replace at 10 years. Somehow the 5-7 year "rule" is making the rounds on the Internet after all these years.
Now, if you're buying tires made in China or North Korea I'd agree with 5 years, in fact I wouldn't buy them at all!
We've had two Dutch Star DP's and should have bought another rather than the Magna!
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all things equal I would buy the diesel over any gas engine

diesel will ride and drive better than gas and has more torque for pulling
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We owned a 22 ft gasser first, then upgraded to a 34 ft diesel pusher.

No comparison on ride, lack of engine noise, towing capacity. Fuel mileage. For us, the diesel wins. Maintenance can be expensive tho. $2400.00 for a rear brake ABS modulator last year. (warranty covered it) Brake job, including turning all rotors, all new calipers and pads, was almost $5K. All new tires (6) were $2300.
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One of the things not discussed is how you are going to use it. Fulltime or weekend use? How far will you travel? Will you be pulling something? How big? RV park or boondocking?

All of the answers are from the posters perspective. You have to purchase what fits your needs the best. Best floor plan for the use and colors both you and the DW like.
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The Newmars are the highest quality. Just decide if you want gas or diesel. If budget allows go diesel.
But, if budget is an issue and you don't want to face $2500 brake jobs, know that once parked, the gas and diesel are exactly the same. So if you are parked 6 days for each day you are on the road, factor that in.

We have had diesel and we now have gas. Yes, there is a difference, but it is not huge. Engine up front is not quite as quiet as diesel in rear, but with the excellent soundproofing job Newmar does, it is not an issue.

As far as torque, your transmission properly geared will get you up the hill. You may travel at 45 rather than 65.

So what are the BIG differences.
1) Diesel chassis has greater weight carrying capacity. If you are going over 35 feet, consider diesel as a requirement.
2) Diesel coaches can usually tow 10K, where gas chassis can tow 5K. 5K is more than enough for a toad. I have gas and tow a CRV. Zero problems.

The fuel issue is minimal today. Gas is a litter cheaper, Diesel gets a little better mileage (but not if you are hauling an extra ton).

Diesel has longer life. This is no concern unless you are full time and driving 30K a year for 10 years... Gas will wear out, diesel will go 300K.. if properly maintained (at a higher cost).
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