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Old 01-23-2014, 08:09 PM   #1
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Putting halogen lights in the ceiling

Hi... There are very few things I dislike about my Fleetwood Discovery, but the one thing I absolutely hate are the flourescent fixtures in the ceiling. There's two of them.. One in the kitchen and one in the fridge and shower area. They offer horrible dim lighting and are well.... Ugly... I have the wall sconces, but they don't give enough light when you really want or need it.

I am considering putting in recessed halogen spot lights in the ceiling. Maybe 8 altogether... 4 on each side. I think the light will be much crisper and brighter and plan to put them on a dimmer so they become ambient lighting as well. I'll leave the flourescent lights there so I have something in a worst case where I'm not plugged in or running the genny.

My question is, has anyone done this job? If so, how is it to snake the wiring through the ceiling? Also wondering where I can tap off in the ceiling and put a switch... Seems like a lot of snaking with potential dead ends... So I'm trying to decide if this is a DIY project or have a pro do it. I'm not afraid of electricity, and have been zapped enough times to know I should be! If this is a job you've conquered, any insight would be helpful.
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Good idea, but I am trying to find the right LEDs to replace my halogens. I burn out about 30 halogens a year.

But if you find halogen fixtures, you can put LEDs in them
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Good idea, but I am trying to find the right LEDs to replace my halogens. I burn out about 30 halogens a year.
Why is that? Is it due to the variable voltage?
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Probably the uber high temperature they run at coupled with vibrations. I don't think I'd consider anything but led for rv lighting anymore.
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Why is that? Is it due to the variable voltage?
I have no clue. They are only about $14 per 100. But the run hot and pull more amperage than most boondockers would allow. When I get the right LEDs, they wont fail while I own this rig, and probably the next owner or two.

Hey, maybe you can find what you want in LED straight off? ;-)
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Just a thought, we installed LED strip lights on the top of the wood trim on our slide outs, this gives us excellent lighting for watching TV we power them thru existing plugs as the have their own remotes total cost was less than $50.00
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What are the best LED's and where to get them? I want to replace all my halogens. Thanks
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Irregardless of how you do it, go with LED lighting right from the start and avoid the pitfalls of halogens. ITC makes plenty of different configurations of ceiling recessed and surface mount LED puck lights. Way less draw, no bulbs to retro fit, nowhere near the heat and easier to install.

Here's a link to one style: 3 Radiance LED Overhead Light

Here's the ITC site link but the pics don't load, but click the catalog link lower left and you can see them all. Overhead Lighting
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I am just looking for the bulbs. Where can you find them?
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Ebay $1.15 (free ship'g) for 10. Search: 10w G4 Halogen
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To get an idea, google "G4 10W LED"
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I too would advise against the halogens due to their power draw (heat). I found a disc LED that fit my G4 base. Decided I wanted something less expensive (disc was about $5) and proceeded to order 30 LED's built in the "tower" design. None would fit due to overall length (even with the contact wires trimmed).

You can get on Amazon and search for 12V LED lighting and see a gazillion options.
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Are these the ones? If so, looks like a good deal. 10x Philips Essential Halogen 12V Capsule 10W 20W G4 Lamp Bulb JC Bi Pin 2000H | eBay I guess 20w would be best? Or would 10 be better?
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what of UV

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I too would advise against the halogens due to their power draw (heat).

You can get on Amazon and search for 12V LED lighting and see a gazillion options.

X2 plus the Halogen emit UV. Remember the old Torch Lamps that would cause homes to burn down. How many of those do you see now? We are going all LED in our MH. Winter project.
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