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Old 02-17-2014, 02:35 PM   #1
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Question about rubber bead around windows

I recently bought a 2000 Georgie Boy Pursuit and I'm fixing some of its flaws. I noticed that the rubber bead around the exterior perimeter of some of the windows had shrunk with age. In two cases it shrank enough to pull the bead free from the window frame at a corner. This has left an opening for water to seep in around the glass. .... I've identified the bead and ordered some replacement. But I'd like to know more about what to expect while replacing it so I don't get caught waiting days for parts with a window out. I'm not certain, but as many of the pieces on the RV are by Atwood, I assume the windows are from Atwood too.

In the corner where the rubber bead pulled away from the frame, I can clearly see the edge of the glass. That gives me the impression that the rubber bead was both the water seal AND the device that kept the window glass from falling out of the frame. Is that right? Is the friction between the frame/bead/glass the only thing holding in the glass? .. I look forward to hearing from those of you who have taken on the task of replacing the rubber bead.
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:00 PM   #2
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Usually the glass wont come out without removing the window frame and opening it up. I think the rubber s just a debris shield and not part of the window seal. I rebuilt several of my windows due to fogging and have never re-installed the filler. It's too small as it has like your shrank with time. Looking for a replacement but my windows dont leak and haven't fallen out.

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Old 02-18-2014, 04:05 PM   #3
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I had to remove a very large window to install a residential refrigerator. A RV glass installer told me to order about a foot more of the rubber seal than twice the height plus twice the width. When placing the seal on the window start at the center bottom. Place seal at the outer edge. Carefully around the corners do not stretch the rubber, but use extra to keep the seal from later pulling in from the corners. This seal is the weather seal, but after the installation is complete use a small bead of silicon caulk at the top of the window and down about 1/3 of way down the sides. Use the best caulk you can buy.
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Old 02-19-2014, 05:57 AM   #4
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mrboyer,
When you removed the glass, I assume you first removed the rubber bead. After the bead was out, did the glass just fall out, or was it still held in place by adhesive or something else?
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I recently bought a 2000 Georgie Boy Pursuit and I'm fixing some of its flaws. I noticed that the rubber bead around the exterior perimeter of some of the windows had shrunk with age. In two cases it shrank enough to pull the bead free from the window frame at a corner. This has left an opening for water to seep in around the glass. .... I've identified the bead and ordered some replacement. But I'd like to know more about what to expect while replacing it so I don't get caught waiting days for parts with a window out. I'm not certain, but as many of the pieces on the RV are by Atwood, I assume the windows are from Atwood too. In the corner where the rubber bead pulled away from the frame, I can clearly see the edge of the glass. That gives me the impression that the rubber bead was both the water seal AND the device that kept the window glass from falling out of the frame. Is that right? Is the friction between the frame/bead/glass the only thing holding in the glass? .. I look forward to hearing from those of you who have taken on the task of replacing the rubber bead.
I have the same problem. Where did you buy your seal, and does it look like mine?


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Old 02-19-2014, 09:05 AM   #6
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I also have same problem and having trouble finding replacement.
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Old 02-20-2014, 06:23 AM   #7
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Interesting. It looks like this place draws more questions than answers. But I'm happy to share what little information I have.

My corner did look like charliej's, although I can't be sure my bead was the same. I got my replacement from this online supplier: click here. You'll note that there are many similar bead profiles. I cut a small piece out of mine to I could more clearly see its shape. That and a micrometer to get accurate measurements let me pick out my replacement.

For charliej: I have since read that some people have success recycling their old bead. They remove it, clean it, heat it slightly with either hot water or an hour in the hot sun, and then stretch it slightly to its original length before reinstalling it. I suspect it will shrink again eventually, but it might work for a season or two.
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Assuming that stuff is like mine, it's a filler and doesn't actually hold the glass. The sliding pane has exposed edges and runs in a track with a "fuzzy" seal that's fixed to the track. The stationary pane has a much smaller "U" shaped seal around the glass. To remove a pane you need to remove all the screws from the inner (inside coach) trim, then remove the entire window assembly form the outside, then find the screws that hold the frame together, then separate the frame from the windows. The frame is like a big clamp.

The short story is that piece you are looking at keeps dirt and debris out of the track and frame ... doesn't hold the glass in place. If you look at the bottom of the frame you'll see slots under the rubber piece that allow water to drain.

BTW, if it is question of esthetics, and you have black window frames, you can just push the shrunken stuff back into the corners leaving a gap on the ends ... then get preformed pipe insulation at HomeDepot or Lowes and trim it with a razor blade to a similar profile and stick it in the gaps. From 30,000 ft and 500mph you won't notice
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Thanks Tommy, I'll take a look.
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BTW, if it is question of esthetics, and you have black window frames, you can just push the shrunken stuff back into the corners leaving a gap on the ends ... then get preformed pipe insulation at HomeDepot or Lowes and trim it with a razor blade to a similar profile and stick it in the gaps. From 30,000 ft and 500mph you won't notice
Clever idea. Thanks.
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