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Old 01-12-2009, 05:27 PM   #1
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We have a 40 foot Camelot wioth air leveling. Can anyone advise me as to how to safely raise it (ie use jack stands) to lube chasis?
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Old 01-12-2009, 05:27 PM   #2
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We have a 40 foot Camelot wioth air leveling. Can anyone advise me as to how to safely raise it (ie use jack stands) to lube chasis?
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:23 PM   #3
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bench....I would make some sturdy wood ramps out of 2 x 8, 3 high. With the coach aired up and on the ramps you should have enough room to crawl or creeper underneath unless you're thick like me.
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Old 01-13-2009, 04:17 AM   #4
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Diplomat Don: I always enjoy your posts as you are a wealth of information. However one should never crawl under an air suspension unit with the bags aired up. There are many rv'rs who have died due to an air system failure while under the unit. I think you will find that OSHA and various states have the same restriction for mechanics in shops. If driving onto boards is not high enough to clear our "mature" stomachs then another method will be needed.
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Old 01-13-2009, 06:25 AM   #5
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I made six inch thick ramps from treated 2x12's to give me plenty of clearance. The top piece is 18" long which makes a good, safe final ramp with a small stop bumper at the end, the bottom piece is 36" long with each intermediate plank six inches shorter with tapered edges. They are heavy but I don't need to muscle them around all that often. Even if the air bags deflated unexpectedly, something which very rarely happens, I feel I have plenty of room should that occur. However, you normally only get to be squashed once.
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Old 01-13-2009, 08:11 AM   #7
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The front suspension should be hanging free when being greased to allow the grease to get to where the highest friction is when the weight is on the suspension.

While parked here at home, before the air is released, I place premeasured blocks under each Jack Pad. The height of the blocks are so that there is just enough room to place them into position while the coach is still aired up. The area where I park the coach is level, and the blocks are level from side to side and front to back. I then release the air and let the coach settle down onto the blocks (which is only about ). Now all the weight is on the blocks/jacks , not on the tires, except for the axle weight, and the coach is level. This is how the coach is always parked at home. This also leaves enough room for me to get under the coach and there is no way it can get any lower.

While greasing the front suspension, I raise the front of the coach until the front tires are off the ground and place jack stands under each end of the axle. This allows grease to flow to the areas where the coach weight is when the coach is again resting on the axle.

Nothing like this is required for the rear for greasing.
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Logthumper has described a resonably safe procedure. I really don't like getting under the coach even to grease. For those times when it is necessary I drop the levelers until they touch the concrete but still try to position myself away from low obstacles. It sounds like placing large blocks under the levelers might be a good idea. I don't have a clue if hydraulic levelers are less prone to failure than air levelers and my method is pretty stupid logic.
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I think I would follow what fleetman has suggested with the ramps. I am very carefull when under our coach and try to make every possible attempt to secure the coach from inadvertent movement while uder it.

I too had a close call when the system aired down unexpectedly. It was all my son could do to pull me out and I got pretty scratched/cut up in the process.

I always use ramps and blocks for the wheels and blocks under the Bigfoot levelers JIC. I make sure there are no wind gusts or windy conditions forcast and I make frequent exits from beneath for constant setup surveillance.

I also have family with me (outside) when I am underneath incase I need help.

Working on any vehicle, whether tractor, MH, car, Jeep etc has a certain risk to it...but so does using a shovel. My hope and goal is that the latter will not need to be used to bury me after working on the former...
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To clarify my earlier post.
The hydraulic levelers are not extended when resting on the blocks. There is no way they can fail.
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Good post logthumper!! Just in case someone wants to apply this method to the rear jacks: Remeber that when the rear wheels are off the ground ytou do not have a park brake! Make sure you block the wheels. Don't even think of using 2x4's you need big blocks for big tires! I hate funerals, especially mine!!
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Am I missing something here? Our MH when all the air is bled off the air bags still has plenty of room under it (crawling of course).

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I think a few people missed the fact that bench said he has AIR LEVELING which means no jacks. I still see no issue with using the ramps. If you feel unsafe about the coach airing down, block the chassis in four spots with some large 4"x8" or 6"x10" beams.
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I use the ramps as someone else has suggested --- I made them out of 2x12 with each shorter one staggered about 4 inches. I have put 5 layers together which raises my wheels about 10 inches. I can then work under the coach with all 4 tires solidly on something and the air suspension deflated. I don't want that thing coming down on me when I am doing my maintance. To everyone, just be safe.
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