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03-15-2013, 07:07 PM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: May 2008
Location: N. Palm Springs CA (in winter)
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Everyone has forgotten the body damage of a exploding tire can cause to a RV, trailer, and tow vehicle. I have seen tires explode upward and raise the interior floors, as well as destroy the plastic/glass fender cover, storage compartments, and the tire parts flow backward damaging under carriages, tear out PVC/ABS plastic plumbing.Then there is the loss time being on the side of the road and the loss time of vehicle use due to repairs, plus insurance deducitble, listening to the DW brag about your decision to use recaps, and the lovely memories.
RECAPS ARE NOT WORTH THE RISK!
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03-15-2013, 07:28 PM
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#30
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Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,391
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I have ran caps on local haul trucks and some OTR trailers and got away with it for periods of time, but sooner or later it was time to pay the piper. The damage from a cap coming off at 65 MPH is unbelievable on a unit that is fairly well built. Coming off under fiberglass looks like a stick of dynamite going off. DON'T DO IT.
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03-16-2013, 04:59 PM
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I have been in the trucking business for 40 years. Have had my own oilfield service company for 21 years now. I would not run retreads on my trucks or trailers if they were given to me free. Total junk and a danger to everybody on the road. In my 21 years with my own trucks with millions of miles logged we have never thrown a tread off a tire. We haul heavy loads, salt water and crude oil over all types of Terran and roads at all speeds. I replace all tires when they get down to 50% tread depth or sooner. Sell them off then as they still have good value at 50%. On with new virgin tires only. We have very few flats. Can't every remember even having a blowout. Recaps do more damage to your equipment then they ever save you money. In 21 years all I have run is Goodyear load range H tires. I wish they would out law recaps as they damage other vehicles all the time and cause accidents where people are injured and killed. They are laying all over the highways from coast to coast year round.
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03-17-2013, 12:15 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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"If you look closer you will see that most of those alligators on the road are from new tires,not recaps. We tried recaps on the rear of the charter bus I used to drive but the ride was too rough so we went back to new"
As stated above, recaps don't peel off the tread, "alligators" are from under inflation which causes the tires to overheat and blow apart, seldom will this occur with a retread most likely as the cap isn't part of the original tire. I would definitely not contemplate usingretreads on the front and only on the rear if you have dual wheels.
As also stated previously, the ride would be more rougher due to the fact that you would be Stiffening the tread area so it wouldn't follow the defects in the pavement as well.
Les Hicks
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03-17-2013, 12:26 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 400
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Just wondering what is the cost of a retread tire? dont jump all over me, Im not buying them, my tires are new so I dont have to suck it up, after all the info I learned about them, ( I know nothing about them) can they be that much cheaper? I can't see it, there are good deals on new tires
gbstewart
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03-17-2013, 12:50 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,636
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hicksie
"If you look closer you will see that most of those alligators on the road are from new tires,not recaps. We tried recaps on the rear of the charter bus I used to drive but the ride was too rough so we went back to new"
As stated above, recaps don't peel off the tread, "alligators" are from under inflation which causes the tires to overheat and blow apart, seldom will this occur with a retread most likely as the cap isn't part of the original tire. I would definitely not contemplate usingretreads on the front and only on the rear if you have dual wheels.
As also stated previously, the ride would be more rougher due to the fact that you would be Stiffening the tread area so it wouldn't follow the defects in the pavement as well.
Les Hicks
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Those "alligators" are mostly recap treads, because the majority of tires on an 18-wheeler will be recaps. We used to run recaps on trailers (never on the tractor especially on the steer axle). The reason all those road side treads look new is because they will usually separate from the tire in the first few hundred miles. If they stay on longer than that, they will probably last a good long time.
The main reason the tread separates soon after mounting is NOT only due to inferior recapping, but slow leaks not known or detected during the mounting process. Under inflation is a killer.
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03-17-2013, 12:55 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2010
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True story loulong. Caps really don't like the heat in Arizona. Went thru a lot of them over the years.
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03-17-2013, 01:02 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Powell River, B.C.
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Another true story.
Dad had a service station, put re-caps on mom's car, she lost a cap on the first tripout of town. After the fight , he never installed another re-cap. If a customer insisted on re-caps, he sent them elsewhere.
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03-17-2013, 02:50 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Aiken,SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hanko
You are absolutly out of you mind if you even consider putting re-caps on a MoHO.
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I agree!
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03-17-2013, 05:14 PM
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#38
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Appalachian Campers
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Dixie !! (north Georgia) USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rlyons
If you look closer you will see that most of those alligators on the road are from new tires,not recaps. . .
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So how did you determine THIS?
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03-17-2013, 06:34 PM
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#39
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Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by macantic
I agree!
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Got a quote today for sumo's. 275 70 22.5 's. 6 for a few bucks less than 2800 out the door. Great tire, great rep. Why would anybody consider re-caps?
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03-17-2013, 06:42 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: The Land Of Oz RVM17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hicksie
"If you look closer you will see that most of those alligators on the road are from new tires,not recaps. We tried recaps on the rear of the charter bus I used to drive but the ride was too rough so we went back to new"
As stated above, recaps don't peel off the tread, "alligators" are from under inflation which causes the tires to overheat and blow apart, seldom will this occur with a retread most likely as the cap isn't part of the original tire. I would definitely not contemplate usingretreads on the front and only on the rear if you have dual wheels.
As also stated previously, the ride would be more rougher due to the fact that you would be Stiffening the tread area so it wouldn't follow the defects in the pavement as well.
Les Hicks
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These alligator thrown treads almost all come off of retreads. You can run a virgin tire flat or low and the tread will not separate from the carcuss. We put a set on a trailer when I was driving for someone 30 years ago on a trailer with a mud pump from a drilling rig. Very heavy load. We made is 6 miles from town and threw the tread off of both tires on a set of duals. Tires were still full of air with no tread. Bald as a baby's behind!
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03-17-2013, 06:44 PM
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#41
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: The Land Of Oz RVM17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by so47
Got a quote today for sumo's. 275 70 22.5 's. 6 for a few bucks less than 2800 out the door. Great tire, great rep. Why would anybody consider re-caps?
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Nobody in their right mind would.
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03-17-2013, 06:47 PM
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