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Old 05-18-2016, 05:19 PM   #1
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Replace Allison Trans

Does anyone know how long it should take (labor) to remove and replace an Allison 3000 transmission? There is a large discrepancy between mt repair shop and Good Sam Extended Warranty.

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Old 05-18-2016, 05:56 PM   #2
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About 2 hours in a proper shop. Add 1/2 hour to flush cooler and road test when done
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:06 PM   #3
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R&R Allison Trans

We must be talking about two different things. The warranty standard guide says 7.5 hours, so 2 hours is not in the ballpark.
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:11 PM   #4
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Well, your question was about removing and replacing...it may only take 2 hours to remove a whole unit and replace a whole unit. The other 5.5 hours may be to service whats inside the transmission. Do they have another complete transmission ready to be installed?

Why are they removing the trans?
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:35 PM   #5
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Steve As you move ahead ask if the quoted hours is 'total labor hours' ... the job may take two techs working about 3 hours each. Let us know how all this works out ... none of us envy what you have to do ... but we all learn ... thanks
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:46 PM   #6
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What the job standard in the book is and how long a job actually takes are two different things.
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Old 05-18-2016, 07:10 PM   #7
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Good Sam uses the Spader standards for their approved labor costs. Spader says 7.5 to R&R an Allison trans...total hours. I have received phones quotes ranging from 10, 12, 20, 30 hours for the same work. I get the feeling most of these people don't want to work on motor homes, and or deal with Good Sam Extended Warranty.

I have 62,000 miles on the coach The trans fluid is contaminated with coolant because the trans cooler leaked into the fluid line. The pressure of the coolant is higher than the pressure of the fluid, so even a pin hole causes coolant to leak into the trans fluid. The glycol causes the pressure plate to delaminate. The early signs are hard shifts and "check trans" warning light.

The total estimate from the Allison shop is about $12,000. Good Sam will pay for the rebuilt trans, but only will pay for 7.5 hours labor instead of the 20 hours the shop estimated. That means I will get a bill for about $2500 even with my warranty insurance.
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20 hours is a lot of time, thinking they just want to make it worth there while to do a RV trans. Doubt it would take 20 hours, seems excessive.
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There is no way, even 2 guys could remove and replace a Allison transmission in 2 hours! I am going to guess that it would be a full 8 hour work day and most likely go into the next day to finish it up and test drive it. That is a lot of work........
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With the right tools and equipment one guy does that job in 4 hours max. One ujiont 8 bell housing bolts 4 conveyor bolts 2 lines one wire connector?
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One tech at the Allison distributor's shop removed and replaced an MD 3060 in one working day. Cost was $8500.
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Hopefully I never have to find out but I would think 2 hrs would put the unit on the ground. It's in a wide open space. Now opening it up is another story
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If the shop doesn't want to work directly with Good Sam, you can handle that yourself.

That's what I recently had to do with a Cummins shop. They did not want the hassle of dealing with the Good Sam folks. I set things up with Good Sam to handle the paperwork myself. I paid Cummins directly, then submitted the claim to Good Sam. They then sent me a check to cover most of the bill. There were a couple of small things they didn't cover, plus I had to cover my $500 deductible.
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