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02-14-2015, 04:01 PM
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Senior Member
National RV Owners Club Nor'easters Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Replacing double pane with single pane? Smart???
I have fogged front side windows on my 2003 National Seabreeze. I would like to replace them, but I am thinking of using single pane glass instead of double pane to avoid a problem down the road. Its actually called laminated glass. Its actually 2 pieces of glass with vinyl or something laminated between them, but there is no air space. I don't live in Arizona, and I don't winter camp. So why do I need double pane glass. None of it seems to last. Bumping down the road in an RV doesn't seem like good environment for the glass seal. Cars only use single pane glass and I think some Motorhome manufacturers only use single pane. So, any thoughts or your experience is welcome and appreciated.
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02-14-2015, 04:24 PM
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Location: California
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No experience with the difference except that the class A I just bought had the dual-pane and they were an expensive option ... hopefully, meaning they will not only keep the coach cooler/warmer in summer/winter, but keep the resale higher as well. Dennis - WU6X
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02-14-2015, 04:28 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club
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Steve, if insulating from heat/cold is not a concern of yours, by all means, install a single pane glass, there is a reason why double pane glass was used in the first place......
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02-14-2015, 04:41 PM
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Senior Member
Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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I just had a thought.. I have one fogged double pane.. I may cut and remove the inner pane.
When I am driving cold is not often an issue, and I can always wear a jacket (heat is more of a problem)
When I'm parked Cold is a problem but... I have lots and lots of insulating pads,,, and I get more every few months (long story I do not wish to go into) so blocking the cold .. Easy to do.
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02-15-2015, 01:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kliwks
I have fogged front side windows on my 2003 National Seabreeze. I would like to replace them, but I am thinking of using single pane glass instead of double pane to avoid a problem down the road. Its actually called laminated glass. Its actually 2 pieces of glass with vinyl or something laminated between them, but there is no air space. I don't live in Arizona, and I don't winter camp. So why do I need double pane glass. None of it seems to last. Bumping down the road in an RV doesn't seem like good environment for the glass seal. Cars only use single pane glass and I think some Motorhome manufacturers only use single pane. So, any thoughts or your experience is welcome and appreciated.
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All the windows except the windshield and the drivers door window on our 2001 Winnebago Adventurer were dual pane. The only windows that ever got condensation on them were those two.
On our 2013 Adventurer all the windows in the passengers compartment are single pane. They all sweat in humid weather if the AC isn't on, or in cool weather when the heat is on. We can also hear much more noise coming through those windows.
If the option was available I would have ordered dual pane windows again on all the windows except the windshield.
As a side note we did have the passengers side window on our 2001 fog up. We ordered a direct replacement from Atwood Mobile Products for less than $150.00 delivered to the door. Add another $10.00 to $25.00 for butyl tape and a few hours labor and you're good to go.
Word for the wise; If you decide to do it yourself pick a warm summer day. We did ours on a cool fall afternoon and the butyl tape was a bear to get off.
Here's the tutorial we used when we replaced ours:
http://www.rampknot.net/window_repai...ndowRepair.pdf
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02-15-2015, 02:13 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Won't have a rig without dual pane windows. But it's your rig and your choice.
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02-15-2015, 03:24 PM
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Senior Member/RVM #90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D
Won't have a rig without dual pane windows. But it's your rig and your choice.
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02-15-2015, 03:30 PM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Single pane glass
While I don't know a whole lot about glass in RV's , the only concern I have with going single pane is that it is a safety "tempered" glass. Just a thought
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02-16-2015, 05:40 PM
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Junior Member
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Search the threads for how to 'rebuild' double pane windows. Lots of info out there and the supplies to do it are not very expensive. Once you do one, it's not too hard. I won't go back to single pane. MUCH quieter at night. Keep in mind that in a motorhome you are sleeping a lot closer to the window than in your house. The comfort level with dual pane is much higher. You don't get the feeling of cold air 'sliding' off the window onto you.
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02-16-2015, 06:26 PM
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Senior Member
Gulf Streamers Club
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I would change out my Single Pane window glass for dual pane in a heart beat if Creation Windows was still in business. I believe I would now have to have the glass custom made if it could be fitted to the existing frames.
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02-16-2015, 08:19 PM
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National RV Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Two layers of glass glued together sounds like safety glass. Double pane glass has a space between the two layers, I believe.
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2005 Nat Sea Breeze 1321
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02-16-2015, 09:05 PM
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You can order a do it your self window kit here
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02-16-2015, 09:12 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
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Location: Moorpark, Ca.
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Look around in your area. My BIL just took his driver's window to a local shop and they repaired/resealed it. It was $150.00.
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02-16-2015, 09:21 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kliwks
I have fogged front side windows on my 2003 National Seabreeze. I would like to replace them, but I am thinking of using single pane glass instead of double pane to avoid a problem down the road. Its actually called laminated glass. Its actually 2 pieces of glass with vinyl or something laminated between them, but there is no air space. I don't live in Arizona, and I don't winter camp. So why do I need double pane glass. None of it seems to last. Bumping down the road in an RV doesn't seem like good environment for the glass seal. Cars only use single pane glass and I think some Motorhome manufacturers only use single pane. So, any thoughts or your experience is welcome and appreciated.
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I dont think it is called dual pane glass. Dual pane is two panes of glass with an air or gas space between. It is for insulation. More likely laminated glass as you suggest, like windshield glass. The lamination keeps the glass from shattering if hit by something. It is a safety issue. Cars windshields are laminated, I am not sure about side windows but think most of them are as well.
Putting in single pane glass could cause serious repurcussions if in an accident and something hits the glass. You could be bombarded by glass shards that could cause serious injury due to cuts and abrasions. An example would be a baseball hitting the window on a house.
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