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Old 04-17-2012, 10:27 AM   #1
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ok before i get hammered on this one i know everyone has an opinion but hear me out.. i know alot of people on this forum are full timers and frequently travel across the country. i am not. i am 31 yrs old have a 3 yr old and a 5 yr old. my wife stays home with the kids and i work. we use our camper, now motorhome for weekend trips that are 90% of the time no more than 2hrs from home. once a year it will be driven to drummond island mi., 400 miles on way. i will not be using them on the steer axle, they will be drive tires only. i have a set of treadwright retreads on my old jeep cj and have been very impressed with them. i know a 2500# jeep and a 17000# motorhome are different and i understand date codes on tires and previous abuse etc. on a tire that comes from a retread shop. bottom line, i an get a quality tire for 108 bucks that is most definatley gonna be tossed in 4 yrs or less beacause of age not mileage. so lets hear it thanks guys-josh

edit: link to treadwrights website and tires. https://treadwright.com/p-27-235-85r16-axiom-a-t-e.aspx
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:06 AM   #2
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i suppose this is another option.. might have answered my own thoughts
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:17 AM   #3
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You are probably going to get a lot of pro/con on this topic. If you know the risks, and can live with them , go for the $$ savings.
A story for you on this . Early 60's so this is dated . My father ran his own shop and installed re-treads on mom's car, on her first trip out of town she blew a tire, less than 150 miles. After the fight, he never sold another re-treaded tire in the 25+ years he stayed in the garage.
It would also be interesting to know if any one keeps any kind of track of the ratio of tire failures ; new to re-tread. Most of the debris on the side of the interstates is re-tread that I see. A lot of trucking companies will only use re-treads on the trailers, where damage from a failure is minimal.
JMHO. Considering the cost of repairing a coach , if a rear tire fails, or a tread lifts off , the savings are not worth it.
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:33 AM   #4
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Ran a lot of caps on trucks and trailers over the years. Speed and heat has a lot with blowing caps. Sometimes wore the caps out, sometimes blew the cap in 3 or 4 thousand miles. I wouldn't run them on a motorhome though. The damage a cap creates coming off is unbelievable.
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:36 AM   #5
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i agree with you on the repair issue, and had thought of that so i contacted the manufacturer and asked. if your tire fails and vehicle damadge occurs within the 2 yr 24,000 mile warranty who pays for the repair? they said they do not cover belt seperation but if the tread does fail they foot the bill. my situation is different than alot of RVer's it is more or less a weekend thing for us having little ones and me working, and if it gets 2,500 miles a year i would be suprised. just got off the phone with belle tire, 600 bucks mounted blah blah.. the shipping and retreads are 480.00 shipped to the door plus another 80 for mounting blah blah so i would save 40 bucks..this just turned into wasted time, dont see a point in putting retreads on. i appreciate your thoughts thanks
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:56 AM   #6
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Myself I lost a rear tire I am lucky it did not take out black tank and the furnace the wheel well took a lot of damage and a lot of work to repair
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:21 PM   #7
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I'm going to come at this from a little different perspective....just MHO. I have had numerous recaps on cars years ago when I was a younger lad with no or little money. Made much sense/cents then! Now, things are different....and a m/home is much different than a car. Your question really should be this..."How much is my peace of mind and the safety of my loved ones really worth to me?". Easy to answer, really. Just calculate the cost of the new tires, subtract the cost of the retreads and....presto, you have your answer. Should anything other than that number really matter? Does anyone else's opinions or experiences (including mine) really matter? We all know life is a gamble. Driving down any highway or biway is a gamble. And anything we do that increases the odds of having a problem brings with it a higher probability that a problem will occur. It could be that exta 500 lbs of whatever we just have to bring with us. It could be using a hitch set-up or other parts that have seen better days or are just flat worn out. And it could be using retread tires. It is not a question of hiding in a cave and not enjoying life....don't get me wrong. It is about managing risk....and not tempting fate for the wrong reasons.

Tire failure at speed is a catostrophic event....even more so on a mhome. Even new tires can fail, like almost anything else. Retreads would seem to bring the odds of that happening to a higher level...unnecessarily so. Most trucking companies around here use retreads on their trailers....and these trailers have multiple tires carrying the load in case of tire failure. Few use them on the tractors. None on the steer wheels. And that is not your situation.

Probably sounds like Im preaching....hope not. You asked for opinions. I will just add that, living in Northern Nevada, I can tell you that the bright lights and free drinks for the gamblers at our casinos are paid for by somebody....and not by the casinos. If these folks enjoy it, right on! Not me....and I live here. Just not my thing. And I wouldn't put retreads on a mhome on a bet. Now how's that for an "oder" guy who still rides motorcycles and used to track race 'em in the past. And I don't and didn't use retreads on those either. It's about managing risk....

Thanks much for reading this way-too-long post. Please let us know what you decide to do. Thanks!!
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big eng- read my last post- the savings would be 40 bucks...not worth it at all. thanks for the input man, and dont worry dont think you were preachin, i asked and i got. thanks guys
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I don't see any reason not to use a retread as you describe. The advantage of buying a new tire is that you get 7 or so years of use. Trade that off (cost per year) vs the expected life of the retread (4 years, you said?).

You can get less expensive tires than GY or Michelin. Make sure that whatever you look at, they are not ST (trailer) tires or P (passenger) tires.
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:24 PM   #10
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It is really a quality issue. We have a local company that retreads truck tires that do a very good job of it-I took a tour of the factory last year. All Airlines run on retreaded tires. Problem is some small time operators do not do a quality job of it-mostly passenger car tires, and that give them a bad rep. Done right retreads are fine but you have to know where they come from/who did them.
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ohio fitter....thanks for the comments. Due to several on/off starts during posting, I guess I did not see your follow-up post. I am amazed at how little the cost difference was. Good choice on your part, IMO. Recently, I exhausted myself trying to find the correct width whitewall tires for one of my old cars. Spent hours on the web, calculator in hand. After all was said and done, I purchased the correct tires locally at an additional total cost of about $60. In addition to the right tires, I also got free lifetime rotations, excellent warranty....and outstanding service. And I didn't have to worry about out of round tires, getting "old" tires delivered at my door, etc, etc.. It's a no brainer. Good luck and safe travels with your coach and your family!! Take care...
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Contrary to popular belief most of the tire debris you see on the road is from virgin rubber not caps. The most common reason for tire failures are due to under inflation.
I have run "caps" for thousands of miles on both my truck and trailer, most times loaded close to 80,000 lbs. so a 17,000lb motor home is nothing. As long as you buy from a reputable retreader you shouldn't have a problem...
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Where did we get that myth that all airlines run on recaps? Wow you guys believe anything.
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