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Old 08-10-2011, 06:12 PM   #1
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Ride Rite installation question

I installed Ride Rites on front and back, and I have the electronic control on the dash. Lefts are tee'd together, and rights are tee'd together, just like the instructions say to install. Rig is a 35' Itasca, gvwr is 20,500#. My rig sags on the RR, which is why I installed the Ride Rites.
When I inflate the bags to take out the sag, the front end raises up too high, since the front is no doubt quite a bit lighter than the rear. I've thought about isolating front and back, but since I only have two outlets on my controller, it would mean I would have to tie the two rears together and the two fronts together, unless I go to a manual system. However, I've read here that it is dangerous to tie the sides together.
Thought I would tie the fronts together and fill them manually, then use the controller to level each rear independently, but was afraid I would torque the frame. Any suggestions??
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When I did my 99 Ford Mountain Aire the rear passenger duels would scuff the top of wheel well when coach rocked to pass side.
Dealer said he could not do job air bag bracket couldn't be mounted so I did the job myself, I was younger than.
Don't know why they said to raise rails in pairs. Should be the rear pair and front pair.
I had air valves that would allow more air into the one that needed to be raise more which was the passenger rear duel. When both rears were raised it would level the whole rear of motor home.
The front bags I fed air to balance with the rears.
It improved the handling of coach.
I had a other coach Ford that I had leaf springs added by a reliable spring company on 98 coach and they raise the coach 3" all around with different size springs to level.
With the bags I had control and could compensate for the different weights mostly in rear due to fuel and holding tanks adding or deleting the fluids.
The front bags were at the same air pressure most of the time.
Controls for rear bags was mounted on my dash so I could control and front bag control was in a basement compartment with compressor and valve air control relays.
The AIR-LIFT Systems now have I understand auto controls to compensate for differences in weight shifts.
Just notice they have a wireless control now also.
I would shift your air lines as you said, rears pair both controlled and front pair controlled together as pairs.
Also there were no shims place under axels or springs in either the spring job or air bag job I did, some outfits would do that.
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I have just installed my own set of ride rite bags.
I do not however have a cabin control option. I chose to go all manual on mine.
If I were in your case, I would use the controller for the rear set, and go to a manual inflation on the front. Set the brackets/valves where you can easily get to them on the front though.
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So, left and right rears get plumbed independently, and left and right fronts are tied together?
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I installed rear ride rites on my coach but I don't have the electronic dash fill. I plumbed them to air independently. This allows me to compensate for different loads on the right and left rear sides of the MH. With differences in holding tanks and waste tanks the right rear and left rear need to be readjusted at times. Wish I had the dash controller for that, but for now manual will have to do. Planning on installing front bags to restore ride height when I have a chance.
I believe they tell you to plumb both left and both right side bags together so that when you are cornering, the vehicles weight does not cause excessive roll by deflating both air bags on the side the vehicle is leaning to. (hope that makes sense)
If I had the same dilemma as you, I would plumb both fronts independently with separate manual fill valves, then plumb the R-R and L-R independently to the electronic dash control. I believe this combination will give you better cornering and good overall drivability. If later you decide you want to adjust front bags on the fly, perhaps another electronic dash controller would be feasible.
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Thanks all for the feed back. I think I will go with Wanabe's suggestion, but I want to figure out a way to manually use the pump that is connected to the controller to fill the fronts as well.

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