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Old 10-13-2016, 12:49 AM   #29
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The new Edge must have gained some weight my 2014 is a shade over 4000 lbs.

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Well the next time I go by the truck scales on hwy 30, I will go across again to double check. My wt was 5050lbs with the 2 of us in it, I know the wife said I need to lose a few lbs
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Well we went over the truck scales tonight and it still comes up the same weight 5050lbs gross. That gives we a net wt of 4665lbs. If these numbers are wrong then the DOT has a problem because these are the main set of scales heading North to the coast.
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Old 10-13-2016, 11:57 AM   #31
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I have one for sale with the mag lights and everything! Now I am using Demco KarKaddy SS tow dolly.
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Old 10-13-2016, 06:14 PM   #32
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I've always used a Roadmaster. I don't know where people get the idea that the Blue Ox base plates are more hidden. On the 5 vehicles that I've installed Roadmaster base plates, they've always been hidden away. Many don't like the crossbar that Roadmaster uses, but you have to realize they make a couple of different mounts and you can buy a set that doesn't use the crossbar.

Just looking at the two tow bars, Blue Ox and Roadmaster, the Blue Ox looks like it was made by a blacksmith while the Roadmaster looks more like a modern day machined product.

We just returned from a 9 week trip. While in New Mexico, a gentle pulled with a Dutch Star while his wife was driving their GMC Canyon with a crushed hood. I spoke to them and they told me the following. They towed with a Blue Ox tow bar fro ten years, until it broke a few months ago. Blue Ox assisted him with a new one. Two weeks into towing with the new tow bar, it also broke, crashing his Canyon into his motorcycle lift.

It seems the Blue Ox has had some issues, more so than the Roadmaster.
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Old 10-13-2016, 06:57 PM   #33
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Google "tow bar failures" and start reading. Without going into manufacturer bashing, there are definite trends on failures there.

You might also consider the Demco tow bars. Lifetime guarantee and free routine maintenance on their tow bars. You can either schedule an appointment at the factory and drop it by, they'll go through it while you watch free of charge, find them at a rally, or mail it in. Our last time it cost about $25.00 to ship it in, they replaced seals, inspected etc, and shipped it back for free! And we're the 2nd owner. Just a thought.
I'm a Demco fan too. Just got mine back from the factory (no charge) and they turned it around in 1 day. Their service is outstanding.
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We just returned from a 9 week trip. While in New Mexico, a gentle pulled with a Dutch Star while his wife was driving their GMC Canyon with a crushed hood. I spoke to them and they told me the following. They towed with a Blue Ox tow bar fro ten years, until it broke a few months ago. Blue Ox assisted him with a new one. Two weeks into towing with the new tow bar, it also broke, crashing his Canyon into his motorcycle lift.

It seems the Blue Ox has had some issues, more so than the Roadmaster.
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Well said! To be fair, the aluminum Blue Ox tow bars seam to be failing at a much higher rate than the steel ones. At least from what I've seen on the internet. So maybe the steel Blue Ox tow bars would be worth a 2nd look. I may do that if I ever have a reason to change from our Demco.
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We bought a Falcon 2 all Terrain in 04 and still use it. We love the unit. Very well made.

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We bought a Falcon 2 all Terrain in 04 and still use it. We love the unit. Very well made.

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I have a like new Roadmaster base plate kit that came off my 2010 Chevy Equinox here in south west Michigan.

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Just adding my experience

I have the Blue Ox Avail. Just a few thousand miles towing with it this summer and no surprises or problems.
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Can you provide more information on what occurred?
What type of vehicle were you towing? 2016 Jeep Unlimited
Approximate weight? 4500 lbs.
Sharp turn? No
Towing straight? Yes
Safety cables functioned as designed? No. Both cables came detached. 1 cable somehow unhooked itself albeit w/bent spring tab. 2nd came loose when tab for safety cable connection on Hydralift failed, torn open by force.
Speed at time of incident? 30 mph? braking in stop / slowing traffic
I am assuming that you contacted the company, what was their response? still no final decision by Blue Ox, claim for damages still pending, 2 months post incident
Was their any inspection of the failed system? Metallurgy etc? damaged parts submitted to BLue Ox for their inspection

I really appreciate the pictures, but without context, they are pretty much just pretty pictures! Oh, by the way, my background is Aviation Safety and Accident Investigation.
And if you know that scenario, you know lawyers can use your own words against you, so I am brief in my details. I think the pictures though, speak loudly.
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And if you know that scenario, you know lawyers can use your own words against you, so I am brief in my details. I think the pictures though, speak loudly.

A friend of mine had a trailer hitch fail while towing a utility trailer. The hitch broke, the trailer dropped to the road, safety chains held but lots of damage to trailer and back of truck getting it to a stop. We looked it over, one side of the box frame had been welded totally around a joint, the other side had only two small "spot" or "aligning" welds on it. Oops! That's where it failed

Name brand hitch locally purchased from a dealer. He contacted dealer, took it in and presented them with the repair estimate for the truck and trailer, they looked at the hitch, said they needed to send it to factory, and have it inspected, but they had no authority to pay for the repairs. They tried to insist that he leave the hitch with them. He called me on the phone and I said hell no, don't leave it with them.

He told them that his "attorney" (no I am NOT an attorney) told him not to let the hitch out of his sight! He told them they would get the hitch when they paid the bill, or that they could sent "experts" out to inspect the hitch at his home. Also took a lot of pictures and blogged about it, totally factual with really good pics!

They sent a couple of guys out to his house, looked the hitch over, gave him a check, removed the remaining parts of the hitch from his truck and he never heard another word from them even though he wrote them asking for results of their "testing" . . . . .

I just have to wonder if he had let them take the broken hitch, would the companies response have been the same? ie; ignore his letters/phone calls, only he never would have been reimbursed for the damage?!?
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