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Old 12-04-2011, 02:43 PM   #1
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rv classified ad turned out to be a fraud

Contacted a supposed owner of a 2006 Newmar Essex and thru the e-mails sent back and forth it was a fraud. The guy wanted a 36,000 deposit before I would be able to inspect the vehicle. Has anyone else had this experience?

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Old 12-04-2011, 03:01 PM   #2
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No, but it sure doesn't surprise me. Good "Heads-up" on your part.

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Old 12-04-2011, 04:04 PM   #3
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Old 12-04-2011, 04:26 PM   #4
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Oh yes.... $300K MH for $58K.... Selling because of a divorce... Riiiiiight.... Wanted money put into an "eBay" account.... Would ship MH for me to inspect... If I didn't like, I could return it for a refund....

I wanted to fly there an pick it up and pay cash BUT they said I couldn't because the "shipping company" had it.... Riiiiiight.....

Finally made them call me and discovered that they weren't from "around here" if you catch my drift.... Told them I wouldn't send any money without first physically seeing MH... They hung up.... Tried to call back just to see what would happen.... Never answered.....

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Had something similar happen. I suspected something funny was going on. I asked where he was located. Said Macon, Georgia. I said great, my brother is a police officer in Macon so he can stop by and take a look at it. Never heard back form the guy.
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Old 12-04-2011, 05:13 PM   #6
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I don't think it's us - there's no 2006 Essex for sale in our Classifieds.

Not too long ago, we did have a late model/low mileage FW Revolution LE offered for $60,000 that was a fraud. Unfortunately, we can't stop these scheisterz from registering & placing ads. But if anyone sees anything out of the ordinary or suspicious for sale on our Classifieds, please report it by clicking on Report Product from the drop-down menu under Product Options on the ad.

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Old 12-06-2011, 04:02 AM   #7
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When I was in the market, every instance of unusually low-priced motorhomes I investigated were scams.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:12 AM   #8
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Craigslist is really bad for this. They will not pursue people obviously placing adds for the purpose of ripping people off. You can often find the same exact add placed in many different cities offering the same fraudulent "deal".

Never spend a dime on anything listed in Craigslist until you see it in person - no matter the temptation to do otherwise.
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Several years ago, when I was looking for a used MH, I was floored by the number of fraudulent ads that I encountered. I never expected that this could be so widespread a problem. It got so that after awhile I could pick them out quite easily. All the ads seemed to share some common characteristics.

1) In all cases, the asking price was well below what the MH should have been worth; sometimes ridiculously so.

2) The "seller" always presented obstacles that made it impossible to see the RV in person. Contact was mostly by e-mail, never by phone. One "widow" went so far as to say that ear surgery prevented her from using the phone. (I guess she didn't have speakerphone.)

3) The circumstances of the sale often were fabricated around some major life event,i.e., death, divorce, job issues. We all know that this does happen to people, but some of these stories stretched the limits of

4) In all cases, some transfer of money would have been necessary to even get the promise seeing the MH.

These con artists play on our weakness for being attracted to a what looks like a really good deal and our ego to think that we are going to beat the odds of that happening. Fortunately, I didn't bite, but I could have if common sense didn't snap me out of it. My advice; don't give anyone money without inspecting the goods first and don't let greed cloud your judgment. As for me, I wound up buying a used MH from a nice guy at a fair price for both of us.
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Having a local phone number is also no help in determining scams. Guy I work with is from Uganda. His brother still lives there. The brother has a local Seattle number.

The internet has truly made the world smaller.
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:00 AM   #11
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I've run into this several times. Neighbour was looking to buy his first MH through Craig's list. Send deposit before viewing etc. I suggested he check furthur and it was a scam with no contact person.

It's not only RV's but used equipment and vehicles. The line,"It's at the shippers yard" is a common reply and even one had a phone number for the shipper's yard.

If it sounds to good to be true, is probably the safest route.

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Don't give up on those "d-i-v-o-r-c-e" (as Dolly sings) sales. Sometimes the seller is mad enough to "get even" although they loose also. So that sell things a ridiculously low prices because the "other half," gets half, and they just want to "get even." Or something like that.

I don't think there is anyone on here that would put a $36,000 deposit for something unseen.
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I had a horse for sale on DreamHorse a while back, here's some of the email:

1st email

Good Morning, I am writing you in regard to your horse i saw on
dream horse if its still available for sale and also like to know the
present condition and last selling price Mr Roberto James

I replied that I would not sale horse without the person coming in person to look at horse.

He replied:


I replied:

And are you also going to add a little more for the person who will transport the horse? Sorry, I think this is a scam, and in fact, your email was flagged by Dream Horse as just that, and I won't play. I care
where my horses go, and if the mare didn't like you or you didn't like the mare, how would that work? Thanks, but no thanks.

He got offended and replied:

In regard to your email content, I am so surprise at you, If i am notinterested i will not have contacted you, Beside since my family and myself love the horse and wanting me to buy it that show how much we are interested in it and care about it, I don't do scam here and i don't want to throw away my money, If you don't want to sell for me
let me know so i tell my family that you change your mind. I am willing to make payment in a legit way you are now calling me names. I am so upset at you but i know you want to be careful. If i don't trust
you i will not have contact you.

Get back to me so i know what to tell my family

Mr James

I didn't bother to reply to this. How dare he get offended when I called a scam a scam. LOL
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It can work the other way around, too. The couple I bought my Beaver from had it listed on a couple of sites, offering either to take cash or to lease it (they owned it outright). I offered them a pretty low price, and in the middle of the discussion a couple of guys turned up and offered them their asking price on payments. The sellers got a funny feeling and had them investigated by a PI, turned out they had already stolen a couple of MHs that way.

They took my cash offer pretty happily.

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