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07-23-2015, 02:40 PM
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#57
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Senior Member
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Location: Henderson, Nevada
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Originally Posted by Lincolnboy2
Tiffin is one of the better coaches out there.
I don't have one, but I've seen plenty of them and they are a great coach.
I don't think any coach on the market would survive this type of crash and come out any better looking.
But that's my meager opinion only.
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Exactly why we will stick with our 05 Newmar, with a STEEL frame NOT WOODEN....
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07-23-2015, 02:44 PM
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#58
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ
Posts: 1,715
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DMTTRANSPORT
Exactly why we will stick with our 05 Newmar, with a STEEL frame NOT WOODEN....
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Yikes!...what diesel pusher has a wooden frame?
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2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4328 K2
2017 Grand Cherokee Summit 5.7
2008 Beaver Contessa 40' Pacifica 425 Cat
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07-23-2015, 02:50 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Henderson, Nevada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tankcj
Yikes!...what diesel pusher has a wooden frame?
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Looks like the Tiffin in the wreck pictures has a wooden upper structure...nothing left...
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2005 Newmar DS 4023, Spartan Chassis, ISL 370 Cumapart, 2008 Jeep Rubicon 4dr, 2015 Kia Soul, 1969 Italian & 2004 Akita
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07-23-2015, 02:56 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DMTTRANSPORT
Looks like the Tiffin in the wreck pictures has a wooden upper structure...nothing left...
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According to the Tiffin website, the 2015 Zephyr uses aluminum side wall construction. I would think the 2014 is the same.
" Durable, yet lightweight, tubular aluminum wall innerframe"
But from the pictures, you're right...there is nothing left!
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2017 Grand Cherokee Summit 5.7
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07-23-2015, 03:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DMTTRANSPORT
Exactly why we will stick with our 05 Newmar, with a STEEL frame NOT WOODEN....
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ditto, I think I will say with my steel welded frame s series from monaco, not sure if it is rollover tested like the bluebird but I like my chances over wood or bolted aluminum frames
Moxy
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370 ISL Allison MH3000, aqua hot, in motion sat
2008 United UXT 24' 10K car hauler
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07-23-2015, 06:29 PM
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#62
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Manitoba,Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moxy
ditto, I think I will say with my steel welded frame s series from monaco, not sure if it is rollover tested like the bluebird but I like my chances over wood or bolted aluminum frames
Moxy
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I have the same opinion. I also have a great deal of concern regarding aluminum wall frames that stand on top of the wooden floor with bolts holding the walls down onto the floor.
In other words, I think the wall frames should be connected directly to and securely to the main steel chassis.
Jim
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Canada, eh?
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07-23-2015, 08:27 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Entegra Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 188
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Here is an interesting video on youtube regards Foretravel Realm FS6, which is a steel structure, fire supression engine compartment, Pressure Pro TPMS, and blow out tire protection system. Granted, lots-a-$$, too.
?sorry, but I cannot seem to get link to work, but search on youtube with
'2015 2016 mshrv'
will bring up one I refer to here.
(video about 16 min, steel/fire sys/Tyron Tyre sys about 11:00 to 10:00 point)
Also, found another interesting video showing more on Tyron Tyre Protection at
Tyron USA
(click on RV video, and on Commercial videos)
And thinking NorthTrailRV may be a FL dealer/auth install for Tyron?
(*disclaimer: not endorsing any pdct/vendor, just fyi info - YMMV )
Anyone here familiar with the Tyron Tyre Protection and or have on your RV?
Safe Travels to All
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07-23-2015, 09:25 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moxy
certainly agree with most of your comments except the part of a false sense of security with respect to tpms, it is only a false sense of security if you depend on the tpms to due things it was never intended to do, in other words, its is not a time machine or a steering device, it is a tire pressure monitoring device that depending on the manufacture will warn of tire pressure changes, tire temperature changes, rapid pressure loss and possibly a few other options, it does not detect bulges in side wall about explode, cord separations about to penetrate the casing, zipper failures, pot hole damage, loose wheel nuts or leaky bearings or any other woes our tires suffer, so the false sense of security is is not the fault of the unit it self but rather the inproper information or expectations of the operator.
Moxy
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That is what I meant with the false sense of security comment. TMPS are a helpful aid but all these other things you mention are important things that the TMPS can't monitor.
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We came, we went, nothing broken, nothing bent!
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07-23-2015, 09:31 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Regarding the 70 % braking to the front wheels, before ABS came out every large truck I drove would lock up the rear wheels on a hard brake application before the front wheels.
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We came, we went, nothing broken, nothing bent!
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07-23-2015, 10:01 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: British Columbia
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This is how some of the truck conversions are built
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07-23-2015, 10:47 PM
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I don't see wood side walls in the picture. I see a wood structure for the bath and closets. All the factory's I've seen do the walls about the same. I also think a lot of the damage was done in the rescue of the passengers. You see a pile of debris in the pictures. Not to make light of the accident as it certainly was a bad one.
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07-24-2015, 08:10 AM
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Location: Henderson, Nevada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by G Shaw
This is how some of the truck conversions are built
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07-24-2015, 11:20 AM
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#69
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Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 457
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jlabit
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I would not be without a Safe-T-Plus. I had a right front blowout on my last coach, a 34'Winnebago Adventurer, at highway speed. I heard that tire blow but honestly didn't feel it and safely drove my coach into the median to a stop. The only damage was what was caused by the tire blowing. The first thing I did after I purchased my current coach was have a Safe-T-Plus installed.
If you search the forum you will find others with similar experience.
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2007 Winnebago Journey 36'
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07-24-2015, 02:05 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 338
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Safe-T-Plus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Olive
I would not be without a Safe-T-Plus. I had a right front blowout on my last coach, a 34'Winnebago Adventurer, at highway speed. I heard that tire blow but honestly didn't feel it and safely drove my coach into the median to a stop. The only damage was what was caused by the tire blowing. The first thing I did after I purchased my current coach was have a Safe-T-Plus installed.
If you search the forum you will find others with similar experience.
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after looking at these pictures, reading some the postings and watching the youtube videos, I am definitely having one installed on my 2004 Fleetwood Excursion.
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