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07-02-2017, 01:22 PM
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Rv power cutting out in campground
Hi there. So we are in Florida on vacation and have been having problems with the electric cutting off from the rv park intermittently. My husband will go outside to the post and reset the breaker. After a few minutes the power will come back on a lot of the time but not always. The rv park checked and has said the pedestal is working fine but that it might be our progressive industries ems protector. We have the new 50 amp one. They suggested we try plugging in without the ems which I do not want to do.
We noticed that when the power does go out we hear a clicking noise from underneath our bed. We don't know what to make of this.
Does anybody have any ideas? Sleeping in an rv in Florida in July without air conditioning isn't fun. Help!
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07-02-2017, 01:30 PM
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The Progressive Industries EMS is doing what it suppose to do.....shutting down power to your rig due to LOW CG Voltage (<104V AC)
CG AC Voltage is under high demand.....all those A/C Units running thru out CG
Power supply leg you are on is dipping.....EMS shuts down then when AC Voltage recovers EMS time delays turning it back on
Unless power pedestal breaker is actually tripping.......DH goes resets but is it actually tripped?
If tripped----weak CB OR you need to lower YOUR AC power demand.
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07-02-2017, 01:35 PM
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Called info line at Progressive when we had problems, got good answers/help. Problem solved.
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07-02-2017, 01:35 PM
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Which Progressive do you have?
Most have a display, where you can read the code. Then look on the front cover to see what the Code means.
Go to the Progressive website if need be and download the manual even calling Progressive directly which can explain how there system works.
If he is going out and resetting the breaker, does the power come back within 10 seconds?
See what happens when, a person does not read the manual? Or spend a few minutes looking at the equipment.
The sound you hear could be the automatic transfer switch.
Another item, we do not know what type of coach you have, so we could be guessing, except for the part on the Progressive Surge Guard.
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07-02-2017, 02:02 PM
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We have the pt50x which is the portable surge protector. We have a 2017 thor hurricane. When we get back to the campground I'll have him check the codes. I don't think the breaker was tripped he just reset to see what would happen. The power wouldn't come on in 10 seconds but a few minutes or so.
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07-02-2017, 02:10 PM
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Does your water heater have an electric element? You could try shutting that off. Same for the fridge, if you have propane /electric, try running on propane. Even the battery charger can add a load on your 120v circuits.
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07-02-2017, 02:16 PM
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The weird thing is this is our 4th campground with the new rv and it never happened before.
I will try shutting off the electric water heater. Our fridge is residential so no option to run on propane.
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07-02-2017, 02:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit
The Progressive Industries EMS is doing what it suppose to do.....shutting down power to your rig due to LOW CG Voltage (<104V AC)
CG AC Voltage is under high demand.....all those A/C Units running thru out CG
Power supply leg you are on is dipping.....EMS shuts down then when AC Voltage recovers EMS time delays turning it back on
Unless power pedestal breaker is actually tripping.......DH goes resets but is it actually tripped?
If tripped----weak CB OR you need to lower YOUR AC power demand.
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Good Advice, I've had this happen on a few occasions. Usually it's on a 30A hook up. Running two AC units on 30A especially in high temps will draw down the voltage as Old Biscuit says. A couple of times, after a discussion about leaving and returning my money as opposed to trying a new breaker, the problem was solved.
Whatever you do, don't give in and by pass it.
I have a Kill A Watt power monitor plugged in to one of the internal outlets so I can see the voltage inside the coach. It's a fairly inexpensive device and it allows you to see exactly what the voltage drop is as you turn on your AC, water heater etc. It also tells you what the incoming voltage is when you plug in without any load turned on. You might be surprised to see that you don't have 120V to begin with.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/P3-Intern...M5GLHnBFu602Ko
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07-02-2017, 07:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit
The Progressive Industries EMS is doing what it suppose to do.....shutting down power to your rig due to LOW CG Voltage (<104V AC)
CG AC Voltage is under high demand.....all those A/C Units running thru out CG
Power supply leg you are on is dipping.....EMS shuts down then when AC Voltage recovers EMS time delays turning it back on
Unless power pedestal breaker is actually tripping.......DH goes resets but is it actually tripped?
If tripped----weak CB OR you need to lower YOUR AC power demand.
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07-02-2017, 08:07 PM
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Until they check the code for (if it is the Progressive) we are guessing.
Yes could be low or could be high.
Wait until the answer comes back
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07-02-2017, 08:12 PM
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It's 4th of July weekend. Your CG is packed and power is in high demand. Your progressive unit is doing what it's supposed to do. It's protecting your stuff by shutting things down because of not enough power being supplied to the pedestal. We always plug in a Kill-O-Watt unit into an inside outlet in the galley and monitor the incoming wattage 24/7. If—like you this weekend—the CG is unable to keep up with the demand, we pair down our usage until the power stabilizes.
We have a hard wired progressive 50amp unit installed in our MH.
https://www.amazon.com/P3-Internatio...ords=kiloawatt
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07-02-2017, 11:40 PM
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Per Progressive...
High/ Low Voltage Protection |
The EMS continuously monitors AC power.
When AC power deviates below 104 volts, for more than six (6) seconds, or rises above 132 volts, the EMS automatically shuts down power to the RV.
Once the AC power rises above 104 volts or drops below 132 volts, the 2 minute 16 second (136 seconds) time delaycounts down and power is restored automatically.
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07-03-2017, 12:14 AM
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I agree... Check for error code and let us know...
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07-03-2017, 03:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit
Per Progressive...
High/ Low Voltage Protection |
The EMS continuously monitors AC power.
When AC power deviates below 104 volts, for more than six (6) seconds, or rises above 132 volts, the EMS automatically shuts down power to the RV.
Once the AC power rises above 104 volts or drops below 132 volts, the 2 minute 16 second (136 seconds) time delaycounts down and power is restored automatically.
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And there you have it. Good post.
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