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Old 10-19-2011, 10:05 PM   #1
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Question RV Tire And Purchase Questions

Downsized recently due to the economy and sold my 2008 Southwind 34G W22 and just purchased a 2004 Southwind 32Vs W22 with 6,000 miles in new condition. I looked it over very closely and purchased the unit from a dealer here in Cali and they are preparing the rig for delivery. They sent the RV to Workhorse for the brake recall at my request, Norcold recall and a few other minor items. My main question is the rig has the original 22" tires on it and I do not see any cracks or weather damage. The whole coach looks as it was stored indoors or under a cover as none of the normal plastic is yellowing and the roof looks great. The dealer says the tires are safe and do not need to be changed. Should I be concerned with the age of the tires? Is there any other recalls I should be aware of or anything to look for?

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Here is what Michelin says about tire age:

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Michelin Technical Bulletin
May 15, 2006

Service Life for RV/Motorhome Tires

The following recommendation applies to RV/Motorhome tires. Tires are composed of various types of material and rubber compounds, having performance properties essential to the proper functioning of the tire itself. These component properties evolve over time. For each tire, this evolution depends upon many factors such as weather, storage conditions, and conditions of use (load, speed, inflation pressure, maintenance, etc.) to which the tire is subjected throughout its life. This service-related evolution varies widely so that accurately predicting the serviceable life of any specific tire in advance is not possible.

That is why, in addition to regular inspections and inflation pressure maintenance by consumers, it is recommended to have RV/Motorhome tires, including spare tires, inspected regularly by a qualified tire specialist, such as a tire dealer, who will assess the tire’s suitability for continued service. Tires that have been in use for 5 years or more should continue to be inspected by a specialist at least annually.

Consumers are strongly encouraged to be aware not only of their tires’ visual condition and inflation pressure, but also of any change in dynamic performance such as increased air loss, noise or vibration, which could be an indication that the tires need to be removed from service to prevent tire failure.

It is impossible to predict when tires should be replaced based on their calendar age alone. However, the older a tire the greater the chance that it will need to be replaced due to the service-related evolution or other conditions found upon inspection or detected during use.

While most tires will need replacement before they achieve 10 years, it is recommended that any tires in service 10 years or more from the date of manufacture, including spare tires, be replaced with new tires as a simple precaution even if such tires appear serviceable and even if they have not reached the legal wear limit.

For tires that were on an original equipment vehicle (i.e., acquired by the consumer on a new vehicle), follow the vehicle manufacturer’s tire replacement recommendations, when specified (but not to exceed 10 years).

The date when a tire was manufactured is located on the sidewall of each tire. Consumers should locate the Department of Transportation or DOT code on the tire that begins with DOT and ends with the week and year of manufacture. For example, a DOT code ending with “0304” indicates a tire made in the 3rd week (Jan) of 2004.
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:27 PM   #3
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If it were me the first place I would drive to is a tire dealer. Or better yet get them to change the tires while doing the other stuff. Make SURE!!!! the give you new tires. Do not let anyone fob off anything older than 3 months on you.
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:45 PM   #4
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Great information. Thanks!
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I have Michelin XRV's and they are going on ten years so I am replacing them without having a bit of trouble over the time they have been in service. But age is just one factor to consider about tires.

I know everything about my tires including that they have always been inflated properly and have never sustained any abuse other than normal road driving. I suspect they have more miles in them but I am not going to exceed the reccomendation given in the above information from Michelin.

You really do not know the history of these tires. If you change now with a new to you rig then you can count on the condition of the tires and start fresh. If you are asking you are probably concerned so you can give your mind a rest with new tires.
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:07 PM   #6
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Agreed but the replacement cost is about $3,000+. The tires and the rig looks so new. I would like to get a year or two out of them as I am not sure how long I will keep this rig (should the economy improve).
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I too bought a 2004 Southwind . Mine is a 32v w22 chassis with 19.5 tires. I also was concerned about the age of tires, as I have had two blow outs on a previous MH with considerable damage. A good friend of mine is in the tire business where I buy my tires. He told me that tires built after 2000 are made much better than previous tires. Tires should last about ten years. He told me to watch for side wall cracks and cracks between the treads. Monitor the severity of these cracks and age as indicators for tire replacement. I am in the same boat as you, tires look good with 12,000 miles. I am going with his recommindation and going to monitor tire condition and age, even with two previous blow outs. Sounds like you might have bought your MH from the same place I and many of my friends bought from. Conejo RV? Good luck with your tires, your right they are expensive.
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On our DSDP I know for a fact that the front tires were run "overloaded" for most of their life as Michelin gave me a letter allowing them to be run 5psi LOWER than the charts called for. The wheels would only take 120 psi, but the tire chart said I needed 125.
I ran them that way for 8 years before the fronts started showing enough cracks that I got worried about them. The new tires were only about 3 weeks old when I got them, still smelled for new rubber for weeks after that.
I did take the rig to a Les Schwab tire store to have the old ones "inspected", all the kid did was circle the cracks and say they were cracked, which I already knew. So much for an "expert" inspection by a tire professional!
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Mr D; I'm picking up what your putting down. I have taken my cars in to be repaired only to pick them up broken. You right, you also have to monitor the "professionals"
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Sometimes you have to treat tire changes like a timing belt on a car.....at a milage point, or age. You just can't tell by looking it them.
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Mr D; I'm picking up what your putting down. I have taken my cars in to be repaired only to pick them up broken. You right, you also have to monitor the "professionals"
Isn't that the truth!
Our '05 Ody had radio reception problems, the dealer kept saying it was "normal" and they couldn't/wouldn't fix it. Then they insisted it was due to the taillight wiring I had added for towing it. I pointed out that the cable was shielded and couldn't possibly do it and the towing wiring was only energized when no one was in the Ody. I finally found that one of the car magazines had had the same trouble and replacing the antenna cable fixed it. Took a copy of the magazine article in and told them to replace the cable, if it didn't fix it I'd pay for it. It did, but now about half the dash lights don't work and they worked fine before. Guess some year I should fix them!!
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Ok Mr D: You got to love this one. I took one of my trucks in to get the rear tires replaced (a different tire store). When I went to drive it away the driver side rear view mirror was missing. Go figure
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Have you looked at the brand new starting this month FMCA pricing deal with Michelin?
And yes, the pricing deal works as described.

Tire Connection - Michelin Advantage Program

http://www.fmca.com/images/stories/p...lin-prices.pdf

Amazing to say the least.

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Have you looked at the brand new starting this month FMCA pricing deal with Michelin?
And yes, the pricing deal works as described.

Tire Connection - Michelin Advantage Program

http://www.fmca.com/images/stories/p...lin-prices.pdf

Amazing to say the least.

essex tires
Yes, you will find my post in the essex-tires page, posts #20 & 35. Post 20 has the link to the FMCA site
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