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04-07-2016, 07:47 AM
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National RV Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner Carolina Campers
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Safari - Tell all
Please tell me everything you know about Safari Motor Homes
I am looking at one, thinking of the move to a diesel pusher.
It is a 2000 Safari Zanzibar, 39 foot, 2 slides, Cat engine. Only 39,000 miles and always garage stored. Some quick reads indicate aluminum walls and roof, which is appealing, not sure chassis think maybe Magnum? Not familiar with it though. Looking for the good, the bad and the ugly.....if any.
As always appreciate the help.
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The "Rode Crew"
2012 Itasca Navion J - Sprinter Chassis.
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04-07-2016, 12:42 PM
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What all do you want to know? What suspension does it have? Safari used 3 different types during this period. If you have the “Velvet Ride”, you need to research the issues related to Safari’s use of the Torsilastic suspension. The issues are not insurmountable, but be aware of them. I know of no particular problems with the air suspension. I have the “Elipti-Ride” suspension, which is simple leaf spring and shocks, and works fine. My coach has aluminum sides, but fiberglass roof and end caps. After almost 20 years, the paint still looks great. I’m not sure which Safaris used fiberglass exterior. A 2000 model year would have been built by SMC, before the sale to Monaco. I consider that a good thing. Overall, I think Safari is a great coach. No doubt other Safari owners will be along shortly.
Wayne
On edit: You may also want to check out the couple of Safari discussion boards on Yahoo Groups, as well as the Safari International web site, for answers to specific questions and more general information.
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Wayne & Michelle
Hillsboro, WV
1997 Safari Sahara 3540
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04-07-2016, 06:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trode
Please tell me everything you know about Safari Motor Homes
I am looking at one, thinking of the move to a diesel pusher.
It is a 2000 Safari Zanzibar, 39 foot, 2 slides, Cat engine. Only 39,000 miles and always garage stored. Some quick reads indicate aluminum walls and roof, which is appealing, not sure chassis think maybe Magnum? Not familiar with it though. Looking for the good, the bad and the ugly.....if any.
As always appreciate the help.
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I know very little about Safari coaches. I know they have SMC Magnum Chassis. My Beaver has a 10 air bag SMC Magnum Chassis. It rides very nice. Big trucks passing don't faze it a bit. Good luck.
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2003 Beaver Patriot Thunder 505 HP C-12 1550 TQ
Allison 4000MH Ram 4X4 towed
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04-07-2016, 07:54 PM
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I have a 96 sarengeti we have the velvet ride which it is not, but it works they are well built with hardwood cabinetry we love ours the floor plan on ours works really well even with no slides and I don't have to fool with def in the engine we don't have air brakes we got hydraulic which work good. To each his on but we really like ours. Just check out and go for it. Good luck
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04-08-2016, 11:49 AM
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I have the 2001 version of the Zanzibar with about 78,000 miles on it. As with all rvs, stay on top of the roof seals to prevent water leaks. These units are solid built. The cat engine is very reliable. Because it is an older unit, the ac units will probably need replaced at some point. Which mural do you have? I get comments all the time about mine. No it is not air ride, but the velvet ride is pretty good and you don't have to worry about the compressor or air leaks. The electronic assist brakes have a different feel to them, but rest assured they work good. Monaco has been good with parts or technical advice when needed.
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04-08-2016, 12:25 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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I have the 2004 Safari Zanzibar .. made by Monaco. Don't see many Safari's on the road - at least not in the Eastern part of USA. I Like my Safari, but mine is basically a Monaco with the Safari label.
If it is what you like, go for it. Most of the RV components, engine and transmission are the same as on any coach. The suspension/frame/chassis might be different but that is about it.
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2004 Safari Zanzibar 40', F-150, BlueOx TowBar, SMI AF1
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04-08-2016, 03:24 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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And I have a 2006 Safari Cheetah, mostly Monaco by then. Love this coach, side entry, 40', 3 slides, 350 Cat, 6-speed Alison, air ride & brakes, Roadmaster chassis, big one piece windshield, cute wife (I added that, it's an option)
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TonyMac
2006 Monaco Safari Cheetah 40PMT
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04-08-2016, 07:09 PM
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I had a 1997 Safari Sahara and we loved it. Solid as a rock. The CAT 3126b was great. Quality coach with centralized plumbing shutoff controls and quality hardwood cabinetry. The aluminum skin gets HOT and the insulation was poor (the walls would get hot). Not a great coach for west Texas. But it was fun.
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2012 Jeep Rubicon, 1994 FXLR
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04-09-2016, 06:56 AM
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Chassis concern
have read that they made their own chassis on these models and wonder if that will be an issue for part availability down the road. I guess components are from other manufacturers and they literally built the chassis but not sure. Does anyone know what transmission is in them, I hope Allison but again not sure.
Looking at another national gasser too, many years newer and am very familiar with them, so decision is essentially older diesel vs newer gasser. Still working so just weekending and occasional weeks so gas vs diesel not a slam dunk for me.
Thanks again for any inputs
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Tom and Patty
The "Rode Crew"
2012 Itasca Navion J - Sprinter Chassis.
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04-09-2016, 08:11 AM
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Monaco Owners Club
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Safari Magnum chassis was built by Safari Motor Coach (SMC). I have a Magnum chassis on my coach because Beaver was owned by Safari for awhile. I do not have a problem finding parts. All three axles are made by Dana, they are still in business. Steering gear is TRW, engine by CAT. Allison transmission. My point is that all are still in business. The steel chassis that holds everything together is just not made anymore. Parts are available from Monaco and Beaver Coach Sales for the chassis.
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2003 Beaver Patriot Thunder 505 HP C-12 1550 TQ
Allison 4000MH Ram 4X4 towed
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04-09-2016, 09:00 AM
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It will have an Allison transmission, probably a 3060. There are sources for pretty much any part you might need to replace. Does the one you’re looking at have the original documentation? With mine, I got a substantial satchel with all the original documentation for that specific coach and it is very thorough. It even includes sheets with manufacturer, model number, and serial number for most of the major components, both chassis and house. The Safari on-line groups will provide as much support as you are likely to need.
The Magnum is a good chassis. I’ve heard that Monaco bought SMC in order to get access to the Magnum chassis, which they then incorporated into some of their other product lines.
If the coach has been properly maintained, it should give you good service for a long time.
Wayne
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Hillsboro, WV
1997 Safari Sahara 3540
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