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Old 06-04-2016, 11:06 AM   #1
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Safe-T-Plus Handling change?

Just had Safe T Plus installed at camping world on Tiffin 32BA. Also just had new steer tires installed and coach tracked perfectly straight. After Safe T Plus install steering wheel cocked alittle to the right so went back and had it "adjusted" No real change and was told it was due to alignment?? Would appreciate feedback from anybody that's had one installed. Thanks
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I'd be willing to bet that CW did not road test adjust it, which is mandatory. On my coach it took two experienced techs at Bay Diesel in Red Bay, four adjustments on the road to get it to track correctly.

This is something a coach owner can do, unless they have a bad back like me, but it does require two people. One to hold the steering wheel in place while the other person makes the adjustment under the coach.

Here's a video of the required procedure:
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I'd be willing to bet that CW did not road test adjust it, which is mandatory. On my coach it took two experienced techs at Bay Diesel in Red Bay, four adjustments on the road to get it to track correctly.

This is something a coach owner can do, unless they have a bad back like me, but it does require two people. One to hold the steering wheel in place while the other person makes the adjustment under the coach.

Here's a video of the required procedure:
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Thanks Bob, That really helps! Quite sure CW did none of that.
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I also did mine myself.It took me about five times to get it right.
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Add one of these to your Safe-t-Plus
Hydraulic Steering Control - SuperSteer Trim Unit for Safe-T-Plus

and you can adjust the trim on the go and it will compensate for changes in the road conditions and cross winds.
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Add one of these to your Safe-t-Plus
Hydraulic Steering Control - SuperSteer Trim Unit for Safe-T-Plus

and you can adjust the trim on the go and it will compensate for changes in the road conditions and cross winds.
I like it but I don't understand why they only make an air driven version. Should have an electric version as well for gas coaches.
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I like it but I don't understand why they only make an air driven version. Should have an electric version as well for gas coaches.
Blue-Ox has the TruCenter that is electrically driven so it can be used on gas coaches. I would like to go to that but so far the Safe-T-Plus is working great.

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Add one of these to your Safe-t-Plus
Hydraulic Steering Control - SuperSteer Trim Unit for Safe-T-Plus

and you can adjust the trim on the go and it will compensate for changes in the road conditions and cross winds.
Is this the same, or similar, to Newmar's Comfort Drive?
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CW installed one for me about 45 days ago. Had to take it back it was pulling so hard left. They gave it back to me a few days later, nothing had changed.

Ultimately I had to take it back, I had emailed my service guy two of the videos on centering it. I made him watch them with me there,

Much better now, not spot on but close.

They had also told me it was an alignment problem.

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Bob has sent me the video, emailing it tomorrow to CW service writer." Kickin & screamin " their going to do it correctly!!!
Thanks all for your advise
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Note in the video the presenter recommended driving the MH before installing the Safe-T-Plus. This is key to getting the STP centered. Drive on a road and note where the steering wheel is positioned when traveling straight down the road. In a perfect world the spokes of the wheel should be straight across from each other. This is not always the case though. Even slight variations in alignment toe in can cause the wheel to be off center a bit. If the wheel is off center more than a couple degrees I would suggest getting a front alignment and have the wheel centered BEFORE installing the STP. This will assure the steering gear is on the "high point" in the gear box which can affect overall handling if it isn't correct to begin with.
When I installed my STP I noted the wheel was positioned slightly to the left. This is exactly where I positioned the wheel when I installed the STP. I had it right the first time with no further adjustment.
If your wheel is off center when driving straight ahead and you hold the wheel in the center position when installing the STP you will have a pull because the steering linkage is fighting against the spring tension built into the STP.
Do the initial road test before starting the STP install.
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age of Safe T Plus

I have a Bounder that is all over the road in winds etc.
Was considering adding one of these, when I noticed the other day that I already have one!

Since the coach is a 2000 model, and I'm not the original owner...not sure when this was installed.
My question: How long do they last? I need to do something to assist my handling issues...and maybe I just need to replace the one I have. But at the high cost, don't want to replace it if something else is wrong.

The steering tracks the road fine and otherwise handles fine, except in high winds. It makes it hard to drive that way.
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A rear trac bar that mounts off the pumpkin to the frame would probably give you better result for what you are describing.


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