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Old 11-12-2017, 11:09 AM   #43
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Entry level diesel coaches have rear radiators. .... If they put all the ammenities of a mid-upper level coach in an entry level coach, who would buy the mid to upper level coach?
Same people as before. Putting that side radiator on that (previously entry level) coach would elevate it above entry level, by your definition.
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:13 PM   #44
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I will just mention that a side radiator with our rear, full bath would be difficult. Not impossible, but it would take some work to fit it in. The rear radiator does intrude a bit on the closet too...
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I will just mention that a side radiator with our rear, full bath would be difficult. Not impossible, but it would take some work to fit it in. The rear radiator does intrude a bit on the closet too...


For 2018, the Dutch Star is offered in ten floor plans. All have side radiator. Eight of the ten have a rear bath.
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I will just mention that a side radiator with our rear, full bath would be difficult. Not impossible, but it would take some work to fit it in. The rear radiator does intrude a bit on the closet too...
Not so with ours and these side units are pretty wide and not so tall. In fact taking up the space of a would be, large compartment on the driver's side rear. However it doesn't have much depth to it and being fluid driven, there's plenty room and more in that area. The tallest thing back there, is the engine and the bath floor is raised, so that one can easily get the valve cover off and not bad at all for top access. Better than most for right rear access, that houses most all the filters in a row, as well. Rear access, goes without saying, as being as good as it could be and the only thing better, would be to have a Super C coach and the only thing, I really like about them.
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Jeeps are unreal high now , of course they are more advanced .. but 45k ?

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If you've not been to a Jeep dealer lately and priced out some top of the line Wranglers like 4-door Rubicons or, Saharas or, Hardrock editions, yep, you're looking at $45K or more. If you go to "Build Jeep Online" you'll see how things add up RATHER QUICKLY. Just like any other build, of any other new car, packages get costly real quick. And, not mention, the newest version Wranglers come darn near as well equipped as many SUVs on the market, i.e. LEATHER, heated seats, climatic A/C, contrast stitching in seat upholstery, GPS and high end radios with NINE speaker and a subwoofer and more. So yes, while it's still a JEEP and what I call a rolling KLEENEX box, it's getting up there in price.
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Boy you got that right. My coach is rear radiator and it has cost us in additional shop time and labor more than once. We are not looking for new or different yet but when / if we do, I will VERY much favor a side radiator. The access to anything in my engine compartment is ridiculously limited and difficult.
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Boy you got that right. My coach is rear radiator and it has cost us in additional shop time and labor more than once. We are not looking for new or different yet but when / if we do, I will VERY much favor a side radiator. The access to anything in my engine compartment is ridiculously limited and difficult.
The problem lies with no RV manufacturer making just a side radiator as an option. Maybe $3k.
No. Getting that side radiator comes with a coach that costs way, way more. For quality or whatever that you either don't want to pay for or can't afford in the first place.
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I read somewhere Winnebago builds no side radiator coaches now. At any price point.
That would be with the exception of the Grand Tour 45RL. It has a side rad, and it's the top of the line. It's a really nice coach, but they should have stuck a 500hp ISX in it! We'll see what happens next then....
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That would be with the exception of the Grand Tour 45RL. It has a side rad, and it's the top of the line. It's a really nice coach, but they should have stuck a 500hp ISX in it! We'll see what happens next then....
Looked that up at linctchinn RV in Iowa. Yikes! $500k+ MSRP.
Thanks for the tip, but will have to pass it up. That's allot of $$$ extra for someone who only wants a side radiator.
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Yeah they could have done better than that IMO. Like I said, 500hp ISX would have warranted the MSRP perhaps, and maybe stick air leveling in it standard. They did up the tire size to 290s on drive and tag though.

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Yeah they could have done better than that IMO. Like I said, 500hp ISX would have warranted the MSRP perhaps, and maybe stick air leveling in it standard. They did up the tire size to 290s on drive and tag though.

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Oh I forgot, also include the Allison 4000 trans, up from the 3000.
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Oh I forgot, also include the Allison 4000 trans, up from the 3000.
Yeah, I noticed that too. For that $$$ I would think a 4000 Allison would be in order.
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The problem lies with no RV manufacturer making just a side radiator as an option. Maybe $3k.
No. Getting that side radiator comes with a coach that costs way, way more. For quality or whatever that you either don't want to pay for or can't afford in the first place.
If it ever becomes a real seller and a gotta have, then it will be an option, I'm most sure.
It would probably have to be a house mod though, as with the way it stands now, it's included as part of a higher end chassis and goes up from there, with the house, as well.
Again, it's the fancy floor plans, big screen TV's and the fireplaces that bring in the profits. I've seen this time and time again, even among a few gearheads that purchase them. Maybe because of them or the spouse, wanting new and for budget concerns, I don't know, but these entry level coaches, do have a wide appeal.
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Looked that up at linctchinn RV in Iowa. Yikes! $500k+ MSRP.
Thanks for the tip, but will have to pass it up. That's allot of $$$ extra for someone who only wants a side radiator.
Yes, you'll have to allot some extra money for the purchase, but it is a lot of motor home when you look at the added features.
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