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Old 02-11-2012, 10:14 AM   #1
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Hi all. My wife and I are new to Class A RV's. We've owned 3 travel trailers, and now as the boys are 11 and 13, wanted to do some cross country sightseeing. Last November we purchased a '92 Coachmen MB380 38' non slide pusher. C8.3 Cummins, MD3060 Allison. 32,000 miles. It's appearance is immaculate. New Rubber roof 6 years ago (Seller told me Insurance replaced it after driving under an overpass and a painting solvent melted a few holes above the drivers position), 6 new Michelin tires, new radiator, new refridgerator, new burbur (sp.) carpet, all access doors have new gas charged extenders, plus metal framework had been preped and repainted with epoxy, new carpet in lower storage, upgraded tv from 12" 12volt to 20" LCD flatscreen + VHS/DVD combo., rear bed had two chamber pillow top air mattress, upholstry is almost like new, 4 new batteries, new alternator. I did my research on what we where looking for in an RV, subcribed to NADA RV guide and began the search. Average NADA book on the RV is around $13,500. However, we ended up paying $24,000 for the coach. I've watched Ebay for 6 months, RVtrader, and even drove from Ohio to South Carolina and back nonstop to look at one. Everything we saw had a higher asking price and was in MUCH worse condition than what we ended up with. I kept seeing posts on buying RV's saying that average NADA retail is what most coaches were selling for, but all that we looked at, not a single dealer or individual was willing to go anywhere near Avg. retail. We are thoroughly pleased with the RV and most say that's all that matters, but I'd like to hear your thoughts as well.

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Old 02-11-2012, 10:29 AM   #2
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NADA is just a guide. Many people try to use it as a reference for hard numbers.
Private parties can use it in one way, dealers in another.
Real prices change with the seasons and even month to month.
It sounds like your research and shopping got you a nice rig that you like. Good for you.

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Old 02-11-2012, 11:11 AM   #3
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NADA is not too far off on newer RVs but once they get beyond the 15 year range, condition becomes a big factor. We recently sold our 1989 Avion 34V for over 4 times NADA.

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Old 02-11-2012, 12:04 PM   #5
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If you like it, whether you paid a little extra or not becomes a moot point, at least in my book. I've bought three motorhomes, my first in '93, and probably could have done things differently (or maybe a little better) with each deal. And, when you look around, like everything else in life, there are always nicer rigs, better deals, greener grass.... It's about value, but it's even more about living a nice life. The important thing is to have fun now, 'cause you can't take it with you!

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Originally Posted by downard1 View Post
Last November we purchased a '92 Coachmen MB380 38' non slide pusher. C8.3 Cummins, MD3060 Allison. 32,000 miles. It's appearance is immaculate. Average NADA book on the RV is around $13,500. However, we ended up paying $24,000 for the coach.
With older rigs, what's been put into it recently has a huge effect. I was checking older Country Coaches for a friend, all the currently-advertised offerings are twice NADA. 'Went with her to look at a rough one, the seller was asking nearly twice the book value (in his case, it'll certainly sell for closer to the book value, if at all).

If you keep yours pristine and make improvements, there's no reason you should expect to sell at much less than the percentage of NADA you paid, I'm guessing.

Recent purchases among four or five friends here in Texas of 1996 thru 2005 DPs have ranged from 10% below wholesale (78% of Avg Retail) to Low Avg Retail, this year.
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I was really just curious. Most of the time when I see people asking about pricing on used RV's, 90% of the time they are refered to the NADA and average retail as being the holy grail price. Only after doing MY research and actually going to see a few of these and keeping in mind their firm asking price, I wound up with a steal. I had a photo of it on my smartphone, and I transferred it to the computer. I can view the photo using my kodak easyshare software, but when I look for the photo on the documents file, it's not there. Must be hidden somewhere else in a download file or perhaps a temporary file. If I can find it I'll post it.
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NADA provides good baseline info. EBay, PPL, and other sites also provide 'sold' price.

As mentioned, the recent work and current condition of the rig is what matters. In general, pay what you feel a rig is worth to you... no more. So, don't get hung up on if the price was too much, or if I can get my money out of it. It was bought to provide enjoyment, and go do so...

Now, I will say a few of the items you mentioned would have made me really want a very, very thorough inspection by a knowledgeable resource. New roof, ceiling leak, chassis painted, and very low miles for the age of the engine. Those would have on the surface, made me want a detail review.

That's from me sitting in my chair reading a PC. You had the advantage of looking the person in the eye, and talking with them - so you had the benefit of building an opinion based upon how you read the character of the gent selling the rig. And that means something too...

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Old 02-11-2012, 05:08 PM   #9
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Smitty, I know where your coming from. I'm usually a very good read about peoples nature, and the guy I bought it from had a very nice house, yet you could tell he was a worker. He was a former Ford mechanic and started his own business out of his three car garage. Everything was very neat and in order. He kind of reminded me of myself in that I need everything to be well kept and functional. I like to buy fixer upper things, not stuff that is trash, but a good solid base that just needs a good refreshening, and that is what I believe the previous owner did.

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