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Old 03-30-2015, 09:24 AM   #1
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Seriously, you're trying to sell that?

So the DW and I are prepping for retirement and looking for our first coach.

We're looking around at several dealers to figure out what we want. Our biggest surprise is some of the mono's that are out there for sale. A few examples:

Looking in one, found about 10 bug bombs sitting around the entire coach. Couldn't wait to get out before I became infested with who know what.

Went into another, the stench was so bad I couldn't stay in it.

Another, (new one at that) had a few baby diapers (thankfully not used) sitting on the kitchen counter. It also had a half consumed bottle of Kendall Jackson Chardonnay and a box of Wheat Thins in the sink.

One had the kitchen sink full of various food boxes, some open (can you say mice?)

Another new one had half the dash removed and wires hanging out.

Seriously, how can anyone expect to sell a motor home in conditions like this?

Interesting also the level of sales interest given to us, from escorting us around the lot and showing us everything we're interested in, answering all questions, to pointing us in the direction of the sales lot and telling us "they're out there"

We have been honest and letting the sales folks know we're in the exploration stage, but knowing someone will probably be buying in the next few months you think they would show more interest.
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Old 03-30-2015, 09:36 AM   #2
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It is an interesting "take it or leave it" sales tactic.
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Dealers were probably trying to sell them "as is" and didn't want to put money into them. But there's no excuse for not tidying the RVs before you let people wander thru them.

Be patient and keep looking. You'll find what you are looking for. Maybe a private seller is the best route.



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There was a similar thread somewhere not too long ago about this subject and someone mentioned the fact that the used motorhomes may be on consignment. The dealer doesn't want to put any money in cleaning them up or fixing anything until they're sold. I would think they'd show better and sell faster if they were cleaned up to start with!

We looked at some used units at dealers too and they were gross. Dirty, smelly..yucky. We wound up buying from an individual and the coach was clean & the one we sold to an individual was spotless.
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Old 03-30-2015, 09:43 AM   #5
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So the DW and I are prepping for retirement and looking for our first coach.

We're looking around at several dealers to figure out what we want. Our biggest surprise is some of the mono's that are out there for sale. A few examples:

Looking in one, found about 10 bug bombs sitting around the entire coach. Couldn't wait to get out before I became infested with who know what.

Went into another, the stench was so bad I couldn't stay in it.

Another, (new one at that) had a few baby diapers (thankfully not used) sitting on the kitchen counter. It also had a half consumed bottle of Kendall Jackson Chardonnay and a box of Wheat Thins in the sink.

One had the kitchen sink full of various food boxes, some open (can you say mice?)

Another new one had half the dash removed and wires hanging out.

Seriously, how can anyone expect to sell a motor home in conditions like this?

Interesting also the level of sales interest given to us, from escorting us around the lot and showing us everything we're interested in, answering all questions, to pointing us in the direction of the sales lot and telling us "they're out there"

We have been honest and letting the sales folks know we're in the exploration stage, but knowing someone will probably be buying in the next few months you think they would show more interest.
sounds like a park and sell lot... the people have to clean their own,..


they have /had one in vegas... I called them roach coaches...
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So the DW and I are prepping for retirement and looking for our first coach.

We're looking around at several dealers to figure out what we want. Our biggest surprise is some of the mono's that are out there for sale. A few examples:

Looking in one, found about 10 bug bombs sitting around the entire coach. Couldn't wait to get out before I became infested with who know what.

Went into another, the stench was so bad I couldn't stay in it.

Another, (new one at that) had a few baby diapers (thankfully not used) sitting on the kitchen counter. It also had a half consumed bottle of Kendall Jackson Chardonnay and a box of Wheat Thins in the sink.

One had the kitchen sink full of various food boxes, some open (can you say mice?)

Another new one had half the dash removed and wires hanging out.

Seriously, how can anyone expect to sell a motor home in conditions like this?

Interesting also the level of sales interest given to us, from escorting us around the lot and showing us everything we're interested in, answering all questions, to pointing us in the direction of the sales lot and telling us "they're out there"

We have been honest and letting the sales folks know we're in the exploration stage, but knowing someone will probably be buying in the next few months you think they would show more interest.
In most instances buying from an individual is a more pleasurable buying experience. Some dealers, however, take great pride in providing good clean units and will often stand behind their sale. Ah, Chardonnay and Wheat Thins. Can someone say, "Party down!"

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Old 03-30-2015, 04:04 PM   #7
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When we recently sold our 2006 WGO View 24J, I took care to ensure my photos were sharply focused, properly exposed and set in context, meaning, the viewer could immediately understand what (s)he was looking at. The interior was clean and de-cluttered and the exterior was clean and waxed. To avoid appearing sterile, I included photos of the rig in various locations so a viewer could imagine being at the beach, in the snow, amongst trees and at the base of a mountain. I don't have proof but I believe good photos helped sell the rig much sooner than some of the lousy photos I see on Craigslist and RVT.
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If it is a big reputable dealer they will be clean and neat. Small dealers or consignment lots, not so much. I have purchased 3 used coaches and all from private parties. 30 minutes talking to the owner is worth a lot. Even when they are not the original owners (2nd or 3rd owners) you get a feel for how they used and serviced the rig.
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Just my 2 cents, which is worth way less, but if I found some dealers just don't care, consignment or one they took in trade or bought at auction, and I would not buy from them. If their lot and inventory is a mess, they are probably a mess.
There are other dealers who do care, and don't forget to look at the private sellers that have rigs out there.
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When we recently sold our 2006 WGO View 24J, I took care to ensure my photos were sharply focused, properly exposed and set in context, meaning, the viewer could immediately understand what (s)he was looking at. The interior was clean and de-cluttered and the exterior was clean and waxed. To avoid appearing sterile, I included photos of the rig in various locations so a viewer could imagine being at the beach, in the snow, amongst trees and at the base of a mountain. I don't have proof but I believe good photos helped sell the rig much sooner than some of the lousy photos I see on Craigslist and RVT.
It's amazing how many ads we see and think "why didn't they take five minutes to straighten up before shooting the pics"
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During the time we were looking to upgrade from our Class C to our current 2002 Windsor we would stop and look at lots of coaches, mostly at larger dealers. I was really surprised when we would walk into a coach and it was a total dump with no efforts to get it cleaned up. I remember that we had spent a couple of days at Lazy Days spending time walking through all the inventory, both new and used. Several of the used coaches were disgusting, couldn't believe it and what a turn off.

We found our current coach down in Florida, the seller was a person that would buy from banks and resell. His lot was not impressive but he was very customer service oriented. When we went to look at the coach he apologized for not having up to his standards for selling but it was one of the cleanest used coaches we ever looked at. About 4 days later we committed to buying with the seller agreeing to pick me up at the airport and going through everything with me. After sale he was very receptive to questions. A good experience so I guess you can't judge a book by it's cover.
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The rig I own now, which I bought for a song and a dance, was so filthy that when you walked through you wanted to go take a shower. It took a professional motorhome dealer 3 days to get it presentable. She commented that it was the worst she had ever seen. Now I used that as one of my bargaining chips (amongst other things). I could see through the dirt and grime that it was a diamond in the rough. I really got a great deal. Everyone else just saw the dirt and walked away. That's way it was on RV Trader for 6 months. Just saying. Sometimes things like that can be a good thing.
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If it is a big reputable dealer they will be clean and neat. Small dealers or consignment lots, not so much. I have purchased 3 used coaches and all from private parties. 30 minutes talking to the owner is worth a lot. Even when they are not the original owners (2nd or 3rd owners) you get a feel for how they used and serviced the rig.
We bought from a consignment dealer, they had one of the women who was an interior decorator decorate the rig and take the pictures so it showed very well. Of course we though the rig came with the decorations and it didn't. Oh well at least we know what it can look like and we have a chance to make it "ours". First thing will be to take out and store all the decorative pillows that we don't like or need!
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I agree with t55watson. Buying from a individual is really the best way to go. I have friends that are dealers and I know a few brokers too. Nothing wrong with most of them. They are very reputable. Just do your homework and research ahead of time and know what your looking. That's how I bought the KStar. But I had to do a lot of work to do to get it road worthy after I purchased it and the PO wasn't that forthcoming. I had to drag some of the answers to my questions out of him. But knew what I was getting into and bought it way under wholesale and even with all the work put into it I still don't have more than wholesale in this rig.
The last piece of advise is: Always remember, most salespeople know nothing about motorhomes, they just sell them.
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