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Old 08-17-2016, 06:27 PM   #1
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Should I re level after leveling for slide extension

I have often wondered if I should re level after first leveling then putting slides out. I am heavy on one side (3 slides) and have a lean to that side.

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I'm sure you'll hear many opinions. I make adjustments after putting the slides out - typically I find the driver's side is low once the two slides on that side are deployed. We full-time and I've been doing it for three years with no ill effects.
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Old 08-17-2016, 07:41 PM   #3
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Absolutely, you can re-level as often as needed. If you are
on soft/wet ground you may have to do it more than once.
And, as you have noted, once the slides go out, it is not at
all unusual to need to re-level.
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This makes no sense to me. If you are level with jacks down (other than on soft ground) how can the MH change level regardless of weight shift? I don't see how it can. I agree it doesn't hurt anything if you want to relevel. But I don't see the logic of doing it.
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This makes no sense to me. If you are level with jacks down (other than on soft ground) how can the MH change level regardless of weight shift? I don't see how it can. I agree it doesn't hurt anything if you want to relevel. But I don't see the logic of doing it.
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The "logic" to re-leveling is this:
If the coach is not level and you want it to be level you MUST re-level it to make it level.

What about that "makes no sense"?
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This makes no sense to me. If you are level with jacks down (other than on soft ground) how can the MH change level regardless of weight shift? I don't see how it can. I agree it doesn't hurt anything if you want to relevel. But I don't see the logic of doing it.
The motorhome jacks act as the fulcrum left to right. when the slide extends, the extra weight out on the fulcrum bears down and now you are off balance slightly. Think about see-saws or teeter-totter, whatever you called it. Same result as there is a lot of weight in the slides.
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The "logic" to re-leveling is this:
If the coach is not level and you want it to be level you MUST re-level it to make it level.

What about that "makes no sense"?
Well said!
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This thread caught my eye because I was looking through my HR Vacationer Owner's book and it states to extend the Slide-outs prior to leveling but the Lippert slide-out 'owners' book states to level first. I asked Monaco and they reaffirmed extending the slide-outs first was their recommendation because leveling first may induce a twist in the coach.

They preferred having the coach resting on the chassis suspension when extending slide-outs.
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The motorhome jacks act as the fulcrum left to right. when the slide extends, the extra weight out on the fulcrum bears down and now you are off balance slightly.
Sorry, but I don't buy that. A teeter-totter has a single balance point, designed to let it tilt as weight shifts even a little. A RV leveling system has 3 or 4 legs, so for it to tilt it actually has to lift one side off the legs on the other side. With enough weight far enough out, I guess that could happen, but an extra thousand pounds a foot or so away shouldn't be enough to effect it. It certainly hasn't in any coach we've owned.

Soft ground, though, is fairly often a problem. With our 33k lb coach, even seemingly firm ground sometimes settles after a day or two. I tune up the level as needed.
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Gary answered for me. With four points down any weight shift sufficient to tip the motor home would literly risk tipping it over. If the ground is solid, I don't see how running slides out can change the level. Yes, if the MH was not level from the start you might want to relevel, but that was not the question asked.
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Ground or earthen surfaces CAN settle, hence; the coach settles and moves a little out of level.

Concrete and asphalt, not so much.
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I do the opposite of my HR Endeavor manual , level first then put slides out. If i need to make minor adjustment i just do it. Why run out your slides if one side of the coach is not level ? That's how things get broken. JMHO
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I have often wondered if I should re level after first leveling then putting slides out. I am heavy on one side (3 slides) and have a lean to that side.

Thanks Gene
I have a 38P also and on a couple of occasions did not have the passenger slide out for a one night stand. I put the jacks down and level out prior to moving the slides. With the two driver sides out, couch, wraparound dinette, refer, king bed going out that side with the passenger slide in I do experience some off level to the driver side.
Something not mentioned here, on a Gas coach the suspension is going to contribute to a lift on the light side and a dip on the heavy side, so long as the wheels are touching the ground. Think teeter totter. Not a big deal but it is present.

I have never owned an air suspension coach but I doubt there is any suspension interplay.
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I do the opposite of my HR Endeavor manual , level first then put slides out. If i need to make minor adjustment i just do it. Why run out your slides if one side of the coach is not level ? That's how things get broken. JMHO
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