|
04-30-2012, 12:11 PM
|
#1
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 89
|
Should my indicator lights make a sound in my 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD
Hi,
I recently bought a 2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD. When I signal, my indicator lights make no sound (so no clicking). I find this very odd.
Is this normal, or is something broken?
Darryl
__________________
---------------------------------------------------
2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD
|
|
|
|
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!
|
04-30-2012, 01:16 PM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Central Indiana
Posts: 1,422
|
Maybe this will help!
November 16, 2004
Those ‘Silent Blinkers’…making them Audible
By Rudy Morris, FCOC
[For new Freightliner MH Chassis with MMDC wiring and noiseless directional signals]
If you are the owner of a newer F/L chassis with the MMDC (Multi – Module Data Computer) wiring, you have undoubtedly noticed that the directional signals are soundless. The MMDC module gathers multiple inputs and drives the multi-lamp dash display (alarm bar) including the turn signal lamps. The old mechanical flasher relays were often hard to hear, but the new MMDC HAS NO flasher module, no relay to click…completely solid state and silent! This helps us travel down the highway with our blinkers still blinking long after we used them to enter the highway.
If you have a flasher plug-in module, see the Nov. issue of FMCA magazine, pg. 30 for a simple method to add a small buzzer to the relay unit to make it more audible. This is the same buzzer I used below.
After researching both Winnebago and F/L drawings, I was able to wire up a simple, economical solution with a few parts from Radio Shack and about 1hour of time. Of course, I spent many hours researching and finding the magic wires, but the actual time to implement should not take much over 1 hour of your time.
PARTS:
QTY Item Rating Source Costs
1 Mini-buzzer 12V, 15ma Radio Shack $3.29
(part no. 273-055A)
OR 1 piezo electric buzzer, 12V, Radio Shack $3.29
2300Hz tone, (part no. 273-059)
2 Diodes 50V, PIV Radio Shack $0.59 (2 pk.)
1N4001 1 amp (part no. 276-1101)
Misc. material & tools
- Approx. four feet of #16-18ga. wire, any color
- Two 3M parallel wire splice connectors (14-16 ga.)
- Solder and iron, small 30W size
- Needle nose pliers
Note: - I bought both buzzers to try them out…I preferred the ‘buzz’ buzzer to the tone buzzer, but you might like the tone unit better.
Procedures:
- Remove your front panel instrument cover or otherwise gain access to the rear of your alarm lamp display (see Overall View picture). Here I’ve removed the rear screws holding down the instrument panel cover, pulled it toward the rear and tipped it forward leaning against the windshield. This overall view shows the general layout of the instrument wiring and placement for the buzzer (your layout may vary depending on brand of MH). I’ve placed a temporary piece of brown cardboard with my new wires taped to it for a later photo showing the diodes I’ve added.
- Locate the Yellow #60 L Turn Signal Lamp Supply wire…it is labeled as such.
- Locate the Green #61 R Turn Signal Lamp Supply wire…it is along side the yellow wire and is also labeled.
- Find a clear spot, which will allow room to add wire splices. I went about 6” downstream from the rear connector on the alarm lamp display unit.
- Select a location to mount the buzzer…I chose a place close to a chassis screw, which I used for a ground.
- Measure two lengths of #16 or #18ga. wire that will reach from your splice point to the buzzer.
- Cut each new wire in half and solder each diode in the middle of the new wires so that the polarity of the diode points towards the buzzer. Caution: do not over heat the diodes when soldering. Heat sink the lead with an alligator clip. The diode package will indicate how the diode polarity is marked. The diodes will prevent reverse current from lighting both sets of directional signals when only one is applied. Heat shrink or tape the solder points on the diode leads so that no bare wire or leads show that can short out on metal objects. Note – mark your wire so you know which way the diode is pointing after you shrink-wrap or tape it up. See photos, note red tape on wires to mark polarity of diodes after they are shrink wrapped.
- Connect the upstream, positive end of the one new wire to the Yellow #60 L Turn Signal Lamp Supply wire and the other new wire to the Green #61 R Turn Signal Lamp Supply wire making sure you keep the positive (anode) end of the diode connected to the lamp supply wires. The negative (cathode) end of the diode-equipped wire should be towards the buzzer.
- Connect the black wire of the buzzer to your ground…you may have to add some wire to this lead to reach your ground point. Since most steel panels under the dash are painted or coated, make sure your ground wire contacts the screw head snugly, or remove a small area under the screw with sand paper to make sure you have a good ground.
- Connect both new wires together to the red lead of the buzzer. Note- if you use the piezo electric tone buzzer, it is polarity sensitive and will not work if the red and black wires are reversed.
- Mount the buzzer to your previously selected spot using double sided tape or Velcro. I chose Velcro with double-sided tape to increase the thickness and dampen the buzzer a bit. If you need more sound, use thin double-sided tape or mount directly to the chassis with screws.
- Test your new buzzer by turning the directional signals on. It should buzz with each directional signal blink and also the emergency flashers.
If you use the procedure, send me email with your comments and feedback. Send to morrisrc@att.net.
Enjoy your new turn signals WITH audible reminder sounds…no more blinkers left on for 10 miles down the highway!
CU Down the Road
Rudy Morris
FCOC Webmaster
3700 S. Westport Ave. #2500
Sioux Falls, SD 57106
|
|
|
04-30-2012, 01:28 PM
|
#3
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 89
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrboyer
Maybe this will help!
November 16, 2004
Those ‘Silent Blinkers’…making them Audible
By Rudy Morris, FCOC
[For new Freightliner MH Chassis with MMDC wiring and noiseless directional signals]
If you are the owner of a newer F/L chassis with the MMDC (Multi – Module Data Computer) wiring, you have undoubtedly noticed that the directional signals are soundless. The MMDC module gathers multiple inputs and drives the multi-lamp dash display (alarm bar) including the turn signal lamps. The old mechanical flasher relays were often hard to hear, but the new MMDC HAS NO flasher module, no relay to click…completely solid state and silent! This helps us travel down the highway with our blinkers still blinking long after we used them to enter the highway.
If you have a flasher plug-in module, see the Nov. issue of FMCA magazine, pg. 30 for a simple method to add a small buzzer to the relay unit to make it more audible. This is the same buzzer I used below.
After researching both Winnebago and F/L drawings, I was able to wire up a simple, economical solution with a few parts from Radio Shack and about 1hour of time. Of course, I spent many hours researching and finding the magic wires, but the actual time to implement should not take much over 1 hour of your time.
PARTS:
QTY Item Rating Source Costs
1 Mini-buzzer 12V, 15ma Radio Shack $3.29
(part no. 273-055A)
OR 1 piezo electric buzzer, 12V, Radio Shack $3.29
2300Hz tone, (part no. 273-059)
2 Diodes 50V, PIV Radio Shack $0.59 (2 pk.)
1N4001 1 amp (part no. 276-1101)
Misc. material & tools
- Approx. four feet of #16-18ga. wire, any color
- Two 3M parallel wire splice connectors (14-16 ga.)
- Solder and iron, small 30W size
- Needle nose pliers
Note: - I bought both buzzers to try them out…I preferred the ‘buzz’ buzzer to the tone buzzer, but you might like the tone unit better.
Procedures:
- Remove your front panel instrument cover or otherwise gain access to the rear of your alarm lamp display (see Overall View picture). Here I’ve removed the rear screws holding down the instrument panel cover, pulled it toward the rear and tipped it forward leaning against the windshield. This overall view shows the general layout of the instrument wiring and placement for the buzzer (your layout may vary depending on brand of MH). I’ve placed a temporary piece of brown cardboard with my new wires taped to it for a later photo showing the diodes I’ve added.
- Locate the Yellow #60 L Turn Signal Lamp Supply wire…it is labeled as such.
- Locate the Green #61 R Turn Signal Lamp Supply wire…it is along side the yellow wire and is also labeled.
- Find a clear spot, which will allow room to add wire splices. I went about 6” downstream from the rear connector on the alarm lamp display unit.
- Select a location to mount the buzzer…I chose a place close to a chassis screw, which I used for a ground.
- Measure two lengths of #16 or #18ga. wire that will reach from your splice point to the buzzer.
- Cut each new wire in half and solder each diode in the middle of the new wires so that the polarity of the diode points towards the buzzer. Caution: do not over heat the diodes when soldering. Heat sink the lead with an alligator clip. The diode package will indicate how the diode polarity is marked. The diodes will prevent reverse current from lighting both sets of directional signals when only one is applied. Heat shrink or tape the solder points on the diode leads so that no bare wire or leads show that can short out on metal objects. Note – mark your wire so you know which way the diode is pointing after you shrink-wrap or tape it up. See photos, note red tape on wires to mark polarity of diodes after they are shrink wrapped.
- Connect the upstream, positive end of the one new wire to the Yellow #60 L Turn Signal Lamp Supply wire and the other new wire to the Green #61 R Turn Signal Lamp Supply wire making sure you keep the positive (anode) end of the diode connected to the lamp supply wires. The negative (cathode) end of the diode-equipped wire should be towards the buzzer.
- Connect the black wire of the buzzer to your ground…you may have to add some wire to this lead to reach your ground point. Since most steel panels under the dash are painted or coated, make sure your ground wire contacts the screw head snugly, or remove a small area under the screw with sand paper to make sure you have a good ground.
- Connect both new wires together to the red lead of the buzzer. Note- if you use the piezo electric tone buzzer, it is polarity sensitive and will not work if the red and black wires are reversed.
- Mount the buzzer to your previously selected spot using double sided tape or Velcro. I chose Velcro with double-sided tape to increase the thickness and dampen the buzzer a bit. If you need more sound, use thin double-sided tape or mount directly to the chassis with screws.
- Test your new buzzer by turning the directional signals on. It should buzz with each directional signal blink and also the emergency flashers.
If you use the procedure, send me email with your comments and feedback. Send to morrisrc@att.net.
Enjoy your new turn signals WITH audible reminder sounds…no more blinkers left on for 10 miles down the highway!
CU Down the Road
Rudy Morris
FCOC Webmaster
3700 S. Westport Ave. #2500
Sioux Falls, SD 57106
|
THANKS!
__________________
---------------------------------------------------
2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD
|
|
|
04-30-2012, 02:10 PM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Nashua, NH
Posts: 2,689
|
Here's a pdf of the same info, with pictures: TurnSignalBuzzer.pdf
__________________
Chris Beierl
2005 Winnebago Vectra 36RD
|
|
|
04-30-2012, 02:35 PM
|
#5
|
Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 89
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbeierl
|
Thanks
__________________
---------------------------------------------------
2005 Itasca Horizon 40AD
|
|
|
04-30-2012, 09:00 PM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: The Buckeye State
Posts: 609
|
Rather than a buzzer, I installed a second set of turn signal indicator lights in the plastic trim above the instrument cluster, visible above the steering wheel. I used LEDs from Radio Shack, and wired them in parallel with the existing indicator lights. I have about 3000 miles on the new setup and am pleased.
__________________
Kent & Sue & Belle
2019 Allegro Bus 45OPP Lovin' it
|
|
|
07-20-2012, 11:23 AM
|
#7
|
Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Wisconsin & U.P.
Posts: 74
|
I also used the mini-buzzer #273-055A. I see Radio Shack has several buzzers. I wish there were some way of listening to them before you purchased them.
Thanks again for the time and effort that was put into this solution. Ernie
__________________
Ernie
2014 Forest River Berkshire - 400QL, sometimes towing my pickup.
AND sometimes towing my 20' Aluma trailer hauling a toad.
|
|
|
07-20-2012, 12:47 PM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Oakton, Va
Posts: 1,160
|
There is a replacement flasher that you plug in in place of the original one. It beeps and lets me know when the turn lights are on. I found this one which is either the same or similar to the one I ordered, TURN SIGNAL ALARM - HEAR YOUR TURN SIGNAL IN RVs, AUTOS, TRUCKS, HOT RODS, GOLF CARTS, AND MOTORCYCLES. I really like knowing when the turn signal is on, or not. It is one less thing for me to have to checki while driving.
__________________
Jim Walker
N Virginia
2014 Palazzo 33.2
Cummins 6.7 ISB, Allison 2100 6 Speed
|
|
|
07-20-2012, 05:51 PM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Waynesboro,PA USA
Posts: 702
|
We put a loud one on from Radio Shack, think FL was saving pennies over safety.
__________________
Downsized Winnebago C, 24 V /08 Saturn Vue/2014 Town and Country Van/03 Goldwing (Big Red)Recently triked Roadsmith kit
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|