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TheArnolds · 03-26-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by demoon

Can we see the trucking lobby rearing up on this one? Think of all the trailers that would have to be outfitted. It's not like the same tractor pulls the same trailer day after day in many cases. That Fedex guy may have been hauling that trailer for the first time. Tomorrow it is another driver's headache. Not that it excuses him from being an idiot not to notice his problem. I know one company in our area that uses twice as many trailers as they do tractors. Half are being loaded/unloaded while the other half is on the road. It just isn't going to happen, at least not with current technology.

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vtwinwilly · 03-26-2013, 03:42 PM

TPMS will never guarantee that trucks won't have blowouts.

So the next questions is... what percentage of blowouts/separation will it prevent. 50%....? 30%...? 10%...? No one can say for sure.

So we're talking about making a law that requires a device that only fixes a percentage of the problem. This only adds a burden to the responsible people as they're the ones who will follow the rules. The irresponsible - and most likely those who neglect their tires - are just going to ignore or skirt by the rule anyway.

More government is not always the right answer.

Model personal responsibility. Be a light for all to see!

djbmsu · 03-26-2013, 06:03 PM

What this country does not need is government telling us what we need to protect ourselves.

jimmyjnr · 03-26-2013, 06:10 PM

I vote for a Stupid Driver Monitoring System

ruffian · 03-26-2013, 06:11 PM

I have to agree with what I believe "Sky Boss" was insinuating. Most of our RV problems are caused by a "Loose Nut". I really doubt even our Congress would be able to legislate "Loose Nuts".

In regards to sensors on "Light" vehicles, I know they are available on new cars as an option, but wasn't aware that they were required by law.

Bubwheat · 03-26-2013, 06:17 PM

I would hazard to guess that the naysayers in this thread haven't had the pleasure of sitting on the side of the road waiting for the service truck. Nor, have they had the big thrill down their leg at having to shell out several hundred's of $$$, for tires and vehicle damage.

All of which could have been avoided by a pretty simple TPMS.

sdennislee · 03-26-2013, 06:21 PM

No more government intrusion is needed or wanted

Tony Lee · 03-26-2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubwheat

I would hazard to guess that the naysayers in this thread haven't had the pleasure of sitting on the side of the road waiting for the service truck. Nor, have they had the big thrill down their leg at having to shell out several hundred's of $$$, for tires and vehicle damage.

All of which could have been avoided by a pretty simple TPMS.

Need to distinguish between naysayers who react politically without applying any logic and those who give reasoned argument as to why it is impractical. Sitting on the side of the road or not has nothing at all to do with it.

In my case, I have removed and refitted 22.5" wheels after blowouts several times, and also used tyre plugs to get myself mobile - both situations being ones that a tpms wouldn't have detected.

TPMS are not the be all and end all and tyre failures will still happen. More important issues to fix before this one.

TheArnolds · 03-26-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubwheat

I would hazard to guess that the naysayers in this thread haven't had the pleasure of sitting on the side of the road waiting for the service truck. Nor, have they had the big thrill down their leg at having to shell out several hundred's of $$$, for tires and vehicle damage.

All of which could have been avoided by a pretty simple TPMS.

They will not prevent a blow out or take the place of good tire maintenance.

laj · 03-26-2013, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubwheat

I would hazard to guess that the naysayers in this thread haven't had the pleasure of sitting on the side of the road waiting for the service truck. Nor, have they had the big thrill down their leg at having to shell out several hundred's of $$$, for tires and vehicle damage.

All of which could have been avoided by a pretty simple TPMS.

our choice, as it should be!

Sky_Boss · 03-26-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubwheat

I would hazard to guess that the naysayers in this thread haven't had the pleasure of sitting on the side of the road waiting for the service truck. Nor, have they had the big thrill down their leg at having to shell out several hundred's of $$$, for tires and vehicle damage.

All of which could have been avoided by a pretty simple TPMS.

Even though I think it is a good idea I don't think it will even come close to stopping the majority of blow outs and other sudden tire failures. I also can understand that even some that have had tire issues still believe it isn't a good law to consider.

I certainly understand the "naysayers" point of view and don't begrudge them those opinions. Clearly I am in the minority with my opinion. The name calling and labeling that seems to bubble up occasionally does get under my skin. Reasonable, level headed arguments that end with some kind of agreement to disagree are fine too. To me it seems that within the RV community I am a minority as a lefty. That means I know that I have to bite my tongue a lot.

It wasn't my goal to say it was a "must have" law. Still, I sometimes think we aren't very accepting of unpopular positions and intimidate folks enough that they don't post something that might be unpopular. Granted, I have seen some postings that seem designed just to start trouble but that isn't what I mean.

The question was whether I believed it should be a requirement and to that I honestly said yes. Will the world stop spinning because this doesn't become law? NOPE and I can live with that. Just let me have my opinion without thinking I'm some commie, pinko, socialist out to steal your first born grand kids.

Francesca · 03-26-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ruffian

In regards to sensors on "Light" vehicles, I know they are available on new cars as an option, but wasn't aware that they were required by law.

Here quoting from Safercar.gov

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The U.S. government, through the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, requires that all passenger cars, light trucks and vans (Gross weight less than 10,000 pounds) be equipped with a TPMS starting in model year 2008. Due to a phase-in of the requirements, 20 percent of model year 2006 and 70 percent of model year 2007 vehicles are equipped with TPMS

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CampDaven · 03-26-2013, 08:39 PM

Perhaps a scientific study should be budgeted.
Perhaps those that monitored shrimp on treadmills would be interested.
Perhaps we should have tire pressure testing stations.

What if I was an idiot, and what if I was a member of Congress?
But I repeat myself. -- Mark Twain

Sequim Guy · 03-26-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Francesca

Here quoting from Safercar.gov

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And you can thank the Ford Explorer that had rollover problems
caused by underinflated tires. And because of those problems,
our govmt. jumped in and decided we weren't smart enough to
keep air in our tires, so............ another law for us.
The problem is that now you can't even change your tire size if it
doesn't have the same tire pressure as set at factory.
Well, actually you can reset your own pressure settings on some
vehicles, and others have to go to the dealer, but still a pain.
Had to research on this when my son's '08 Silverado had some
problems with the dash warning lights going crazy. There is no
way to disable this system on the vehicle, it's built into the computer.

Thanks a lot, government.........

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