Go Back   iRV2 Forums > MOTORHOME FORUMS > Class A Motorhome Discussions
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 03-12-2015, 02:33 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
volvik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Posts: 330
Slide Only moving 1" at a press

I've been going over the countless threads on slide issues all morning but I thought in the event someone has an 'ah haaa!' moment and knows the answer right now.

Just started the '07 Southwind 32V for the first time since November. I was in the process of checking all the systems and have discovered this slide issue.

MH level, bedroom slide functions fine. When I try to extend the front dinette slide I can faintly hear that suction noise like the slide is trying to move. It actually does start to go but only about .5 to 1" each time I press the switch. I did it about 3 times so it now sits about 1-2" out. When I try to retract it nothing happens.

The slide won't move out any further.

UPDATE:

Each time I press the switch I do hear a click noise and have traced that noise to the actual power gear electric slide motor underneath the slide. I can hear and feel a click on the end of the motor with every press of the slide switch.

I've pulled the 'waterproof' connector apart and the terminals look fine. The rubber boot is secure and still has the plastic zip tie around it.




Any thoughts? Power is obviously there....

Thanks in advance...Ron
__________________

__________________
2007 Fleetwood Southwind
volvik is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 03-12-2015, 04:32 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2,796
On mine there are power controllers(don't know what they are officially called). After a 1000 mile trip mine started doing the same thing. I got the slide in after several start/stops and took it in for service. All it was, was the power controller had vibrated a little and needed to be adjusted, it took all of 5 minutes. Both of mine are in a outside storage compartment next to each other. It is a really easy adjustment with a small screwdriver. In the event one has burned out, the mechanic showed me how to just switch the wires from the bedroom controller to the main slide in an emergency, they both work the same and are the same size controller. So if you can find where they are at you can try a slight adjustment first and then go from there.
__________________

__________________
Mike & Charlotte
2014 Newmar Canyon Star 3610
Orange County, California
Mike and Cha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2015, 04:40 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
wa8yxm's Avatar
 
Damon Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 22,790
First,,,OPEN A WINDOW..(You mentioned a suction noise)

Power gear uses a current sensor...IF the motor overloads,,Due to obstruction,,,,Lack of proper lubrication/rust/debris in gear track,,,,OR LOW BATTERIES

It shuts off.
__________________
Home is where I park it!
wa8yxm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2015, 05:01 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
volvik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Posts: 330
Thanks...still playing with it.

1. The door is open when I'm trying stuff so a vacuum isn't a problem.

2. My Jack,slide stuff and battery control box etc is in the front passenger side compartment. I've swapped the two relays for the bedroom and drivers side without any effect.

3. There are also two other identical terminal points (for that lack of a better description). About 6 wires go into each one with an older style cylindrical glass fuse on the side covered with a clear plastic hood. I swapped those two fuses over also with no effect.

4. The slide controller comment is interesting so now I just have to find out where that is and what to do with it..hahaha.

Oh....and I crawled underneath, unplugged the power to the power gear motor and put a meter on the wires. When my wife hit the switch I recorded a value of about 13.94 volts....BUT.....it had a negative value, as if I had the positive and negative probes on the opposite wires.

Keep the suggestions coming....
__________________
2007 Fleetwood Southwind
volvik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2015, 05:50 PM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 80
1- There could be limit (stop) switch problems.
2- there might be control switch problems.

I would take a 12 volt batt. and some jumper wires direct to the motor. If it works while hot wired you probably have main switch problems. If it still doesn't work I would suspect some limit switch problems.
I find it perplexing that it won't go back in after going out 1"" or 2.
Good luck.
__________________
2005 Damon Challenger
2007 HHR toad
Mizzly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2015, 06:24 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
GaryKD's Avatar
 
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wellington, Florida
Posts: 12,314
Mizzly has posted an excellent diagnostic step. Putting a battery directly on the slide motor is what I do to get fellow coach owners on the road if they can not retract a slide.

Warning: All slide stops are not working when you do this. The slide will operate until you remove the battery leads. Be very careful.
__________________
Gary
2005 Newmar KSDP 3910 + GMC ENVOY XUV 37K lbs Moving Down The Road
The Avatar Is Many Times Around The USA
Nobody Knows Your Coach Like Somebody Who Owns One Just Like Yours
GaryKD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2015, 07:17 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
volvik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Posts: 330
Stand down from Red Alert

That's a great idea to further isolate the location of the problem.....however,

after thinking more and more, in particular the fact that it manage to budge 3 times albeit just a .5" I wondered if it just wasn't getting enough juice. I had just de-winterized it a few days ago and even though it had been plugged in and the battery meter in the coach said the chassis and coach batteries were fine I still had some reservations.

Now the smaller bedroom slide opened fine but then the dinette/couch slide is much bigger and had storage bins coming out as well.

So I started the generator as well as having the engine running....no change. I then plugged into shore power and low and behold it started to move.

It ended up going all the way out.

So it appears that all the components in the side out chain work however I still have to figure out why it wouldn't go out with the engine running. Just stiff from being stored for 4 months with the slide in? Damp climate with some swelling?

__________________
2007 Fleetwood Southwind
volvik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2015, 08:29 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 569
Some rvs slides will not go out if the engine is running. Since you just DE winterized, it just might be that your batteries are low. Will they extend if you have the generator running.
__________________
2008 Thor, Four Winds Mandalay 40G. Cummins 400 isl. Freightliner chassis
koda59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2015, 12:29 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 2,796
My slides will not go out with the engine running as a safety feature. When I put the slides in/out I am either on the generator power or plugged into the shore power of the CG. It sounds like maybe you battery was just a little weak for the big slide. Glad you got it worked out.
__________________
Mike & Charlotte
2014 Newmar Canyon Star 3610
Orange County, California
Mike and Cha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2015, 05:13 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
wa8yxm's Avatar
 
Damon Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 22,790
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mizzly View Post
1- There could be limit (stop) switch problems.
2- there might be control switch problems.

I do agree with control switch issues as possible

There are no limit/stop switches,,Do not exist and thus can not be the problem.

Re: Negative voltage on motor leads...100% normal, The leads will have voltage applied one way for EXTEND and the reverse for RETRACT.
__________________
Home is where I park it!
wa8yxm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2015, 07:29 AM   #11
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 14
On our '03 32v Southwind, the dinette/living room slide was very finicky about how much weight could be in the outside compartments and inside, under the dinette. Acted just like you explained. Had a service person out first time it did it on the road in Colorado Springs. He had us take every thing out of the compartments and spray lube on all the slide gears, worked fine. He told us that there is circuitry that checks for overload (amps) and if it try's to draw too much current, it shuts down the circuit. He said he could replace the motor and relays or i could continue to keep very little weight in the slide to finish out our trip. We went with the minimal weight and lube for another 4 years before trading it.
__________________
nmmarkb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2015, 06:41 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
volvik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Posts: 330
Ok so this morning I went out and tried it and no go, very disappointing after getting it to work yesterday.

Back to the drawing board....


1. Checked the fluid level in the coach batteries and it was fine.

2. Did a load test on the coach batteries and they're fine (18 months old)

3. Connected a 12v battery directly to the slide motor and it extended and retracted just fine.

....okay, so the rocker switch inside the coach works fine, the bedroom slide works fine, the dinette slide motor works fine. I swapped the relays with no change.

Pulled the connectors off the 6 wire terminal board for both the bedroom and dinette slide and swapped them. The slide worked....

Put the connectors back onto their respective terminals after spraying contact cleaner on both male and female terminals. Slide continues to work as it should.

Hrmmmm....

There is also one of the cylinder glass fuses on each of the slide controllers but instead of glass the middle area appears to white on the bedroom slide and greyish on the dinette slide.

As a safeguard, I will replace both of those fuses as well 'As soon as I can see what Amperage they are'!

I understand that a questionable fuse there or even one of those six wires could cause intermittent grief.

I'll continue to check the slide operation tomorrow before and after changing the fuses.....once I found out the correct amperage.



Thanks for the continued input.....also, the storage bins in that slide do not have much weight in them at the moment.
__________________
2007 Fleetwood Southwind
volvik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2015, 07:25 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
wa8yxm's Avatar
 
Damon Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 22,790
As I said when voltage goes down, Current goes up

And the "Limit Switch" which does not exist on Power Gear (And Accu-Slide I might add, And Kwikee steps) is replaced by a current sensor that,when the current goes up,,Thinks the limit has been reached.


I do not know what other companies have that feature.
__________________
Home is where I park it!
wa8yxm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2015, 07:53 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
volvik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Posts: 330
So looking back at your earlier post, you think it might be the control switch? Where might that be?

I can only see the rocker switch for in/out inside the coach, then the slide relays, then the slide controllers (six wires and a fuse) and then off to the motor.



Thanks again...
__________________

__________________
2007 Fleetwood Southwind
volvik is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cat, slide, slide out



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Slide Adjustment, 2000 Holiday Rambler 38WDS Fred Cooper Monaco Owner's Forum 2 12-06-2014 07:52 PM
super slide moving out on its own while parked mulligan Class A Motorhome Discussions 4 09-10-2014 09:34 AM
Hydraulic Slide Problem Dalybill Excel Owner's Forum 5 09-06-2014 12:12 PM
A New Thread on 33.2 Slide and My Experience DaveBounder Palazzo Motorhomes 13 07-12-2014 10:20 AM
Slide Repair at the Factory J Walker Palazzo Motorhomes 26 05-20-2014 02:18 PM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.