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10-15-2016, 11:10 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club RV Trip Wizard
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Mountainburg, AR
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Small Class A Less than 30ft options
We are shopping for a Small Class A Motorhome to be used fairly frequently (hopefully). We are a soon to be retired couple who have owned an RV of any kind. So far I have only found 1 model that pushes all of our buttons. The Thor Axis 25.3. I just know there must me other options out there, I just can't seem to find them. (I think my internet searching skills are somewhat lacking!) I had a opportunity to look at and drive one yesterday and we really liked it. But I want to explore what else is out there. I am hoping someone can suggest some other options.
Here are our requirements:
Class A Motorhome
Between 26 and 30 feet (the shorter the better) Anything bigger, will be more coach that I will be comfortable with driving and too expensive for us.
Configured so that one of us can comfortably occupy the coach while moving down the road.
Have a wrap around dinette with removable table
Prefer to also have sofa seating.
Queen bed with floor access on 3 sides of the bed.
fairly large shower.
One or 2 slide outs, not too picky about this but need to be able to still use the area with the slides "in".
All this with a street price in the mid to low $70K range.
The Thor Axix 25.3 comes as close to this list as I have found. I just think there must be others. I was a little disappointed in the exterior storage space, but other than that it was pretty good.
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10-15-2016, 11:18 AM
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Senior Member
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Used Baystar Sport.
FWIW IMHO your budget clearly puts you in the used market. I have looked at several Axis and am not impressed. ACE either. These motor homes seem to be price point machines out there for the family that wants a few game days and maybe a couple of weeks with the kids in the summer. I don't think they will stand up to a lot of use. OTOH the Baystar sport and anything close to that Tiffin or one of the mid range vendors make would be a lot better choice for someone who expects to do a lot of use.
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10-15-2016, 12:07 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Mentone, CA
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If those were my parameters I'd be looking into a Safari Trek. They can be had gently used for half of your stated budget, and built by one of the higher end MFG's back in the day. The only thing you'll give up is the walk-around bed, as most of those had drop-down beds. But I think you'll find that the build quality and the rest of the amenities make up for it, and for "in-motion" livability of a passenger while going down the highway, I don't think you can beat one of those in that coach length.
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10-15-2016, 12:09 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Solo Rvers Club
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Consider a used Winnebago Vista 27N , 29.5 feet gasoline powered Class A with awesome storage, huge fresh , grey , tanks. Huge flatscreen TV. Three slides.
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2015 Vista 27N
2020 Ford Escape Hybrid
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10-15-2016, 01:37 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Albuquerque NM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryJB
We are shopping for a Small Class A Motorhome to be used fairly frequently (hopefully). We are a soon to be retired couple who have owned an RV of any kind. So far I have only found 1 model that pushes all of our buttons. The Thor Axis 25.3. I just know there must me other options out there, I just can't seem to find them. (I think my internet searching skills are somewhat lacking!) I had a opportunity to look at and drive one yesterday and we really liked it. But I want to explore what else is out there. I am hoping someone can suggest some other options.
Here are our requirements:
Class A Motorhome
Between 26 and 30 feet (the shorter the better) Anything bigger, will be more coach that I will be comfortable with driving and too expensive for us.
Configured so that one of us can comfortably occupy the coach while moving down the road.
Have a wrap around dinette with removable table
Prefer to also have sofa seating.
Queen bed with floor access on 3 sides of the bed.
fairly large shower.
One or 2 slide outs, not too picky about this but need to be able to still use the area with the slides "in".
All this with a street price in the mid to low $70K range.
The Thor Axix 25.3 comes as close to this list as I have found. I just think there must be others. I was a little disappointed in the exterior storage space, but other than that it was pretty good.
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We have just been down this road looking for a class A under 30 ft. We were looking for used to avoid the first year depression. Tried several dealers here local to establish a sales person looking for a used one for us. They showed us there new inventory Forest River F3, Winneabgo N27, Jayco Alenta,Fleetwood Flair and a Newmar Bat Star Sport 2701 and several others that slip my mind at the moment.
We really liked the Jayco and the Newmar but we were looking for used even a 2016 end of year price was more then we wanted to spend.
We found a 2008 Newmar Bay Star 2901 on rv trader "let's just take a look to see what a used one is like" This was the first used one we had looked at under 30ft. Needless to say it really was what we were after.
After thinking it over for a few minutes we bought it. We did find out we liked the couch and bigger slide on a 29ft over the 26-28ft floor plans.
We also feel this 8 year old coach is just as good or better then the new ones. Saved enough to look for a newer toad which is next.
So keep looking short ones are out there and you will know when you see the one that fills your wants what ever brand.
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10-15-2016, 02:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Safari Treks were constructed from 1991 to 2008. Similar to the high-end Safari coaches and with many up-scale features. See TREK Tracks: Safari TREK Brochures
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Originally Posted by DTS
If those were my parameters I'd be looking into a Safari Trek. They can be had gently used for half of your stated budget, and built by one of the higher end MFG's back in the day. The only thing you'll give up is the walk-around bed, as most of those had drop-down beds. But I think you'll find that the build quality and the rest of the amenities make up for it, and for "in-motion" livability of a passenger while going down the highway, I don't think you can beat one of those in that coach length.
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2005 Safari (Monaco)Trek 28RB2, Workhorse W20, 8.1, Allison 1000 5 spd, UltraPower engine & tranny, Track bars & sway bars, KONI FSD, FMCA 190830, Safari Int'l. chapter. 1999 Safari Trek 2830, 1995 Safari Trek 2430, 1983 Winnebago Chieftain, 1976 Midas Mini
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10-15-2016, 04:11 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Enjoying the Western States!
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Since RVing is all new to you I'd recommend buying a used unit. Here is one that looks very nice - a 2005 now reduced for $30,000. It would be great for your first RV. The inside photos looks like it was well-cared for.
2005 Gulf stream Sun Voyager 30' 8292 SE Priced at $ 39500
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10-15-2016, 04:52 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club RV Trip Wizard
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Location: Mountainburg, AR
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Hmm, SWMBO is not sold on the idea of used. I think she would rather have something new for twice the price even if the used one is twice as good.
Next question is how do I convince her used is better in this case?
Are there any good resources explaining why used can be a better choice?
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10-15-2016, 04:57 PM
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I really like the Newmar Bay Star Sport 2903. It is really out of my price range. Even the 2015 used ones seem to be out of range. But I perceive it to be a better quality rig.
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10-15-2016, 05:11 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Victoria, BC
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We looked at the Axis and others.
The Newmar Baystar Sport is what we finally settled on...2901
You will find both the 27 and 29 will meet your needs... walk about queen, sofa, dinette, good size shower 2 slides. Plenty of room for extended living.
Bit I am biased
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10-15-2016, 07:17 PM
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Senior Member
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now to find one. I cant; find a used one anywhere on line, all the ones listed have already been sold.
Am I correct in thinking that the Baystar sport will hold it's value longer than the Axis?
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10-15-2016, 07:27 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powercat_ras
Consider a used Winnebago Vista 27N , 29.5 feet gasoline powered Class A with awesome storage, huge fresh , grey , tanks. Huge flatscreen TV. Three slides.
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X2 on the Vista. God quality build. You might also consider the Vista 30, as it also has a sofa, though it has a dining table rather than a wrap around. However, the TV lifts up out of the table for a great TV viewing angle, and out of your way when not watching.
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10-15-2016, 08:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Victoria, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryJB
now to find one. I cant; find a used one anywhere on line, all the ones listed have already been sold.
Am I correct in thinking that the Baystar sport will hold it's value longer than the Axis?
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I can't speak for resale value but I do know if we had bought the Axis we would be shopping for another motorhome. In total, we occupy our Baystar about 5 months of the year. The Axis would have been too confining and has much less basement storage for the DW's stuff. I fought hard to keep our choice under 30ft.
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10-16-2016, 06:31 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
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The Bay star Sport is the one I would be looking at. If you cannot afford a new one, find a used one that has been well cared for. It is much better to get a used coach of higher quality than a new one of lesser quality.
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