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Old 02-05-2016, 09:41 AM   #15
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Our Winnebago Aspect class C has cab seats that turn around and become the main seating source. So that has changed I guess over the years but it is a down size from an A. In fact we are now looking for a bit more space. It's great for weekend or short trips but gets a bit close on longer ones. Looking at a 2015 Newmar Ventana 3635. Hope it will be enough space. We'll see.

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Old 02-07-2016, 08:33 AM   #16
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Class C's are out of the question, due to Generator, Slide, and leveling issues. And really are determined to stay under 30 feet, which eliminates the Newmars.

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Old 02-07-2016, 09:53 AM   #17
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Had a 26' vista. As mentioned, one AC can't keep up. If you need AC you might want to look at the smallest one with two ac's.
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Old 02-08-2016, 06:07 AM   #18
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Class C's are out of the question, due to Generator, Slide, and leveling issues. And really are determined to stay under 30 feet, which eliminates the Newmars.
Newmar Baystar Sport - 3 or 4 models in your range depending on whether or not you count the inches. ;-)

FWIW I think they may have one of the best handles on how to do a small RV. YMMV.
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Old 02-08-2016, 06:50 AM   #19
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We just bought a Jayco Precept 31UL, looked at the Newmar sport (side by side), liked the fit and finish of the Newmar but liked the layout of the Precept. Might want to take a look at it before pulling the trigger.
Just looked online,they sure look good..nice warranty. for your short time use looks like one to put in the mix. lots of nice features

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Old 02-08-2016, 07:51 AM   #20
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We have downsized from a 40 foot Monaco DP, and are now shopping for a small 27-28 foot Class A unit. Started out looking at FR3, Coachmen Pursuit, Thor ACE 27, and Winnebago/Itasca Vista/Sunstar 27N.

We have pros and cons for all of them, but would appreciate some input on others in this situation.

The Winnebago models have a slight edge with us over the Thor, but $15,000 more in price. Don't intend to live in it, like we did the Monaco, but use it around 3-4 times a year, with one long trip (4-6 weeks) annually.

Would like to pull the trigger on a cash purchase by April 1, and ALL input would be greatly appreciated!!

The Tiffin Breeze was available for several years as a 28' model. It actually measured just under 30'. I think that they only build the 32' version now so this would mean looking used. Winnebago also builds the Via which is built on the Mercedes Sprinter chassis. I think it measures around 28'.

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Old 02-08-2016, 02:54 PM   #21
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This thread is perfect for me. Have a truck and TT that measure 52ft. I have seen the Bay Star at the Pomona show and it looks great. A 30 ft MH towing a Wrangler sounds great. Just me and the dog. Retired so more trips in the future.
Looking to go slightly used. Are there MH's that hold up better over time than others. Some look nice new but look old fast. Will probably go with a gasser, that means Ford. Plan on some trips 1500 from home. I do my own servise and minor repairs. Had TT's for years with good luck. Will be watching this thread.
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Although you can't go wrong with the Newmar, and they do have them in the size you want, maybe plus a few inches, If you are limiting your choice between the Winnebago, Coachman or a Thor product I would definitely go with the Winnebago. We spent a lot of time researching and driving everything we could before we bought, and in my opinion the Winnebago was way better built than the Thor/Coachman.
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Old 02-08-2016, 04:13 PM   #23
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And really are determined to stay under 30 feet, which eliminates the Newmars.
You do know the two Newmar models 2702, 2705 are shorter than the Winnebago.

But your call.
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Old 02-14-2016, 10:08 AM   #24
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Did NOT know that, thank you!
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We looked at all of the ones mentioned. Finally ordered the Itasca Sunstar 27N, 2016. Our friends were so impressed that they ordered one. We also down sized. Very, very pleased with it.
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A few things you need to be aware of looking at smaller coaches. If your fairly tall you need to make sure the bed is the long 80" one not the shorter size frequently found in smaller coaches. The smaller coaches tend to be 30 amp which means only one AC unit. I would consider 28-30 feet about the max for a single AC to handle. You get what you pay for things like an inverter, auto transfer generator switching, power management systems, double door refrigerators, fans in the roof vents, etc may or may not be available on a smaller coach so pay attention to how it is equipped. If buying new now make sure you know if it is on a 2015 or 2016 chassis, the 2016 6 speed is quieter and flat out performs the older 5 speed in every way I can measure.
Our first coach was an FR3 30DS relatively problem free, drove well but we outgrew it fairly quickly. If at all possible make sure the coach has the 22.5 inch tires not the 19.5 The FR3 drove OK it was 19.5 anything we have driven with the 22.5 in tires drives better.
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Old 02-15-2016, 01:43 PM   #28
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Vista 27N owner since September. Loves:
- full queen size bed with inner spring mattress
- great bedroom storage
- great basement storage
- HUGE water, grey, black tanks
- Benchmark dinette - be sure to get this option!
- MCD shades
- Lots of of load margin on wheels and tires even at max weight
- Lots of margin to carry cargo before exceeding rated capacity
- A modern Shurflo water pump with bypass that does not "pulse"

Things I had to change after purchase:
- cheap noisy OEM Bathroom fan - replaced with a MaxxAir
- added Cheap Handling Fix, Safe-T-Steer, and Air-tabs to make handling acceptable to me
- Sound bar for TV
- Oxygenics shower head to replace the cheap OEM one
- 5-Star-Tune mod for engine (might not need if you get a 2016 with new 6 speed trans)
- roof top TV antenna

"Live with things" you can't really change:

- Noise in the driver / passenger seats when the engine has to work hard above 3,000 RPM climbing grades
- Cruise control does not work well except on perfectly flat roads
- The passenger seat does not have any adjustments except for forward/back track travel and backrest recline
- The Swintek 2 track slide system on the 3 slides have to be closely monitored. The screws on mine slowly work loose and when I see a screw head that is not down tight I have to tighten down. I have to check them every other month.

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