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Old 05-22-2011, 09:30 AM   #29
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Congratulations on a good decision, I certainly wish you well. There are many options to tow brakes do some research. My first brake was a simple surge system made by Blue Ox using cables to pull the brake pedal, the cables were in the receiver and simply tightened when the brakes were applied due to the force of braking. It was not optimal but it got me through my first experince and is budget minded.

I use Brake-pro myself and have been happy with it, there are many models and brands all have pros and cons---my Brake-pro depletes my battery after about 3/4 days towing---I.m solving that by getting a device that charges the toad battery from the MH while I drive.

I also just learned of US Gears D-celerator which looks more like a permanent install----many people swear by this one.

Look em up ---have fun shopping--- I am sure you can find used equipment if you want.

Any way---good for you---safe driving. I wish you all the best.
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The intent is not to beat a dead horse here rather to provide another consideration not mentioned thus far. Yes, we have been in a panic stop, all tires smoking (including Jeep) situation which, unfortunately involved a tractor trailer 10 vehicles behind us getting airborne and exploding! We would have been "married" to the semi in front of us had it not been for the brake buddy in our Cherokee. Having said that, consideration for other motorists, not to mention being able to answer your Insurance Company's invevitable questions, would suggest that having a braking device or system to stop your Jeep if it becomes separated from your Motorhome just plain makes sense??
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:38 AM   #31
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... having a braking device or system to stop your Jeep if it becomes separated from your Motorhome just plain makes sense??
This is EXACTLY why the law requires it
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:18 PM   #32
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This is for mythplace who states "This is EXACTLY why the law requires it ".

Can you please tell us what this law is and where it can be found.


The following url provides the best data on towing regulations as it goes right to the actual state regulations:

http://home.roadrunner.com/~morodat/toad-b...s-by-state.html

You will note that very few states actual require an auxilliary braking device provided you can meet the actual stopping requirements listed.
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Towing Laws | BrakeBuddy - Braking systems for motorhomes towing a vehicle

this is a pretty good guide to requirements / laws ... I doubt Law Enforcement and Transportation enforcement will become less stringent in years to come!??
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Except there chart is wrong when it comes to Washington.

It looks like they are basing it on laws dealing with trailers. A vehicle is tow is NOT the same as a trailer.

Here is RCW 46.37.340 Read it for yourself.

My 3200 lb car barely effects my 37' motorhome. I'm pretty confident it brakes well within the performance specs listed in the RCW. Next time I'm out with it I think I will test it so there is no question.
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It looks like they are basing it on laws dealing with trailers. A vehicle is tow is NOT the same as a trailer.
Let's see what Texas says:

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Section 541.201 - VEHICLES

(20) "Trailer" means a vehicle, other than a pole trailer, with or without motive power:
(A) designed to be drawn by a motor vehicle and to transport persons or property; and
(B) constructed so that no part of the vehicle's weight and load rests on the motor vehicle.
So, other than a car in tow, what kind of a trailer have you ever seen with motive power that's designed to transport persons?

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That is why it is important to look at the code and not rely on a mfg website.

Texas appears to only exempt tow trucks, but only requires brakes if over 4500 lbs. Most small cars are well under that. Texas also does not seem to have a tow to towed weight ratio rule either.

It would certainly be nice if they standardized this stuff.
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The url I posted doesn't work. Here is the correct one:

home.roadrunner.com/~morodat/toad-brakes-by-state.html
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Old 05-24-2011, 11:54 AM   #38
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Mmmmm... Thanks, I now am considering another purchase.

Anybody selling a brake budy?
eBay. I picked up a factory-refurbished Brake Buddy for about $450. Used ones show up as well, and have seen the occasional Ready Brake there, too.
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For RustyJC,

As Paul Harvey used to say - and now for the rest of the story:

Texas Statute 547.401 states:

(a) Except as provided by Subsection (b), a motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, pole trailer, or combination of those vehicles shall be equipped with brakes that comply with this chapter.

(b) A trailer, semitrailer, or pole trailer is not required to have brakes if:

(1) its gross weight is 4,500 pounds or less;
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(2) its gross weight is heavier than 4,500 pounds but not heavier than 15,000 pounds, and it is drawn at a speed of not more than 30 miles per hour.
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This stuff is simple.

Anyone who has towed anything anywhere knows that it is not the "go" that counts, it is the "whoa". Brakes on a tow reduce the stopping time/distance, no brakes increases the stopping time/distance it is inescapable, it's in the laws of physics, period.

If you have brakes you are legal in all jurisdictions, I can't find one that prefers you not to have them.

Would you rather be able to stop in a shorter distance or a longer one when towing?

This ain't complicated.
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For RustyJC,

As Paul Harvey used to say - and now for the rest of the story:

Texas Statute 547.401 states:

(a) Except as provided by Subsection (b), a motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, pole trailer, or combination of those vehicles shall be equipped with brakes that comply with this chapter.

(b) A trailer, semitrailer, or pole trailer is not required to have brakes if:

(1) its gross weight is 4,500 pounds or less;
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(2) its gross weight is heavier than 4,500 pounds but not heavier than 15,000 pounds, and it is drawn at a speed of not more than 30 miles per hour.
Ummmm.....OK, and how exactly does this change my original post defining what a trailer in Texas is and isn't?

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I still haven't heard anyone respond to the "break away" thing? You have a Pilotless vehicle parting company with your coach at 65 mph ... you want it to stop, without the aid of a guardrail, jersey barrier, or another motorist(s), or do you want it to stop 'cause you thought enough of your property, and the other motorists, to install a supplemental braking system?
By the way, we have had a 42' tag axle, air braked, two stage engine braked coach for 4 years now and I can assure you that going down some of those mountain grades taxes the braking ability of the MH and it is comforting to feel that 'tug' when the Brake Buddy kicks in.
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