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Old 04-26-2011, 09:57 PM   #1
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spin balance or beads ?

finally new toyo tires r in ! now the job of getting them put on ! should one spin balance or beads ? whats been to your liking ? decisions arent always easy here ! lol looking for a place to dismount an mount also here in jacksonville ! your opinion plse !
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Old 04-26-2011, 10:06 PM   #2
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I had the beads in my 19.5 tires and they just put them in my 22.5 Toyo tire I got a little vibrision at 45 to 50 mph not sure if its the beads or something Else but had no problem with them on the 19.5
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Old 04-26-2011, 10:14 PM   #3
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Spin balancing is always better, and here are the reasons why:

1. You will get a better balance with spin balancing.

2. This is the biggest reason...With beads in the tire, either the beads or the inside of the tire will begin to wear away. In either case, when you go to adjust the tire pressure, if you have to release air from the tire, some of this material [bead or rubber dust] WILL get caught in the tire valve, resulting in a small air leak that is almost impossible to repair without replacing the schrader valves.

Spinning the tires is more expensive, but the results are always better.

Hope this helps.

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Old 04-26-2011, 10:15 PM   #4
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I like the theory behind the beads and had them installed in all 6 tires on the MH when the new aluminum wheels were installed a month or so ago.
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I have replaced 9 tires without balancing any, never had a problem.

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I had my new Toyo Tires spun because I felt the beads were causing slow leaks in my old valve stems. I had quite a search finding a shop in Albuquerque that could spin 22.5 wheels.

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For just a few $$ each, I prefer both. Spin balance when new to be sure the tires are good then add beads to keep them balanced. I put on a new set of 19.5's a while back and just put in the beads. Never could stop the vibrations. Had them pulled and spin balanced and found one tire out of round and could not be balanced.
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I agree with Wizard. Spin balance them so you know if the tire is out of round and takes too much weight. If it does then you need them to get a different tire. If it is a steel wheel then they need to turn the tire on the rim until it is the smoothest. Can't turn them on an aluminum wheel because they are true all around.
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Old 04-27-2011, 05:33 PM   #9
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If you decide to go with the beads, Make sure they install the valve stems with the filters. The other posts were right, beads can get in the core and cause a leak. They are supposed to use a valve stem with a filter to keep this from happening. I would make them show me one, to be sure.
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Hi fxdave,
Spin balance. Properly done, you'll have a very smooth ride for the entire life of the tire. Since 1978, I've never had a problem.
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im old school spin balance in the 70,0 i would use a hunter to balance the tire the front we but a drive under the tire rune to 75 mph and go now if buy tires they will be bal if necassary they will spin tire to rim before i leave
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:52 PM   #12
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I think that tire balancing, whether it be spin balancing or static balancing, is last century technology. Spin balancing is a good idea to check to make sure that a brand new tire is good.

Contact the folks at:
Tire Balancing Products

They'll supply you with the right packages of ceramic Dynabeads. You do not need special valve stems with Dynabeads, as the beads are larger than the hole in the valve stem.

Once I tried the Dynabeads, it's all I'll use now. I throw them in the tire when I mount it on the rim, and forget about it for the life of the tire.

When we drove our farm truck out of the wet fields, we'd have to stop and scrape the mud out of the wheels as best as we could so that we could drive down the highway without the vehicle shaking itself to pieces. Once converted to Dynabeads, we never thought about it anymore. The beads constantly adjust to the changing imbalance of the wheel.

I believe that a big problem with the old technology balancing methods is that the balance you did will not adjust for the changing dynamics of the tire as it wears. By the time you realize there's a problem, usually because there's a vibration, usually the tire is no longer dynamically round, and then rebalancing can become a real challenge.
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Spin balance. Only. And I always watch em do it. And I make em spin em again after the weights are on, if the machine don't show double zeros they start over...
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