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Old 05-17-2019, 11:39 AM   #1
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Stay On Your Side of the Yellow Lines!!!

I'm pretty sure I'm going to upset some folks with this, too bad deal with it. (attached photo is a screen shot from a dash cam)
We have been most timing (10-11 mo/yr) for 9 years and have been to all the states in the lower 48. I've had to hit my brakes and go for the shoulder countless times for cars, motorcycles, semi's, flatbeds, garbage trucks, dump trucks, oversize vehicles, and pretty much every other combination of motorized vehicles except motor homes. The attached picture is a screen shot that shows an A: inattentive driver (cell phone, arguing with the wife, clipping his finger nails whatever) B: a driver who does not know how to drive on 2 lane mountain roads or C: or someone just too lazy to stay on their side of the road. Folks you are driving a large vehicle, learn where the edges of your MH are and where they are when you're going around a curve. If you can't stay on your side of the road on two lane roads stick to the the 4 lanes!!! It only take one magic moment of stupidity to irrevocably change your life or someone else's. The roads are loaded with poor drivers, don't be one. For those who say, "Well this is just an isolated incident." There was another motor home right behind this one doing the same thing. Let's not be part of the problems we have to dodge around while we're driving.
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Had a semi drift into my lane last year which caused me to have to swerve into a guard rail scraping nearly the entire length of my Winnie. Cost my insurance co. $4830 in damages. So far I've spent $1100 on ONE BASEMENT DOOR. And it would have cost $800 more if I hadn't gotten the salvage door painted in Mexico.

I've had RV'ers force me over to the side numerous times on 2 lane roads. And even on 4 lane roads they've drifted into my lane far too early when passing, sometimes forgetting their toad I suppose. Since I travel at 55-65 MPH, many times RVs pass me going 70-75, and when I see them on 2 lane roads, I expect they're speeding there as well.

So, yeah, make sure you stay in your own lane and please slow down...especially on 2 lane roads.
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Just one reason I hug White line on right side of roadway.....
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Just one reason I hug White line on right side of roadway.....
Is that a "tighty whitey"? I also an fed up with any driver too incompetent to stay in their lane.
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I always expect the worst from RV drivers on two lane highways. You never know the oncoming driver's level of experience or ability. Even more frightening is the fact most RV'rs are tourists or sight seekers. It's not difficult when looking at a beautiful landscape to lose your concentration on your driving. Perhaps the driver is pointing out something of special interest to a co pilot or passenger. We have probably all done it at one time or another.
This is not to say other vehicle types can't be driven by inattentive drivers.
Two lane highways are one place I turn my headlamps on even on a bright sunny day. One more tool in my defensive driving tool box.
Just to add to the distractions, of course there is the "have to take this call" cell phone user, the people staring at a rear vision camera, those eating or drinking while driving or the GPS user we have to contend with among other things.
Stay alert! Like they say, " Prepare for the worst and hope for the best".
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I always expect the worst from RV drivers on two lane highways. You never know the oncoming driver's level of experience or ability. Even more frightening is the fact most RV'rs are tourists or sight seekers. It's not difficult when looking at a beautiful landscape to lose your concentration on your driving. Perhaps the driver is pointing out something of special interest to a co pilot or passenger. We have probably all done it at one time or another.
This is not to say other vehicle types can't be driven by inattentive drivers.
Two lane highways are one place I turn my headlamps on even on a bright sunny day. One more tool in my defensive driving tool box.
Just to add to the distractions, of course there is the "have to take this call" cell phone user, the people staring at a rear vision camera, those eating or drinking while driving or the GPS user we have to contend with among other things.
Stay alert! Like they say, " Prepare for the worst and hope for the best".
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I agree with OP, I am the co-pilot and I don't mind seeing that white line right under my butt. Makes me comfortable knowing we are only in our lane. As we are new to Coach rving it will be awhile longer before I am fully confident in placement on the road. Hubby is a fantastic driver, but you never know what's comin around that curve.
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Living in the PNW we have a lot of mountain roads and inexperienced sightseers. A lot of whom drive our roads like in the OP's picture.
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I'm pretty sure I'm going to upset some folks with this, too bad deal with it. (attached photo is a screen shot from a dash cam)
We have been most timing (10-11 mo/yr) for 9 years and have been to all the states in the lower 48. I've had to hit my brakes and go for the shoulder countless times for cars, motorcycles, semi's, flatbeds, garbage trucks, dump trucks, oversize vehicles, and pretty much every other combination of motorized vehicles except motor homes. The attached picture is a screen shot that shows an A: inattentive driver (cell phone, arguing with the wife, clipping his finger nails whatever) B: a driver who does not know how to drive on 2 lane mountain roads or C: or someone just too lazy to stay on their side of the road. Folks you are driving a large vehicle, learn where the edges of your MH are and where they are when you're going around a curve. If you can't stay on your side of the road on two lane roads stick to the the 4 lanes!!! It only take one magic moment of stupidity to irrevocably change your life or someone else's. The roads are loaded with poor drivers, don't be one. For those who say, "Well this is just an isolated incident." There was another motor home right behind this one doing the same thing. Let's not be part of the problems we have to dodge around while we're driving.
"Things that lead to accidents happen real slow. Accidents happen real fast."
Alan Brunacini
Be smart and safe travels.
May I ask, are you former Chief Brunacini of Phoenix FD? As for "bad" drivers, yep, lots of them out there. We all have to be defensive.
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C, Was recovering from dodging an animal in the road.

Did you happen to ask the offending driver what happened ?
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The way you cropped that photo, it looks like you were hugging the white line.

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It's never made sense to me that the law requires that a driver possess a CDL to drive a commercial vehicle >26,000 lbs, but in many states an RVer doesn't even need an upgraded license, let alone having to demonstrate proficiency in driving a large vehicle.

Not that being forced to upgrade a license automatically makes one a better driver, but I honestly think that my CDL "B" classes and the training that my wife received from RV Driving School, helped make us both better drivers of our MH, especially when we first started driving it ~8 years ago.

My course included quite a few hours of driving a large straight truck alongside a crusty retired truck driver who was my instructor. He didn't like wasting time having us drive on in the interstate because "any fool can do that!" We spent our time mostly driving on winding country roads and narrow city streets because that was where you "really learned" to drive!

Personally, I'm pretty sure the RV industry has lobbied hard to minimize the licensing requirements for RV owners in various states. In Maryland, at the time we purchase our MH, dealers were pretty much silent on telling drivers that they needed upgraded licenses to legally drive many of the RVs they were selling. And when I asked the Motor Vehicles folks how they could allow drivers to register vehicles which they didn't hold valid licenses to drive the answer was that "just because they own it doesn't prove they're going to drive it!"

The bottom line is that none of us should be surprised that we encounter as many poor RV drivers as we do.

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May I ask, are you former Chief Brunacini of Phoenix FD? As for "bad" drivers, yep, lots of them out there. We all have to be defensive.
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No Chief Brunacini passed away about a year and half ago. He was a National Leader in the Fire Service who I always admired.
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C, Was recovering from dodging an animal in the road.

Did you happen to ask the offending driver what happened ?
I was not the driver but he's a friend of mine. As far as talking to the offending driver.....take a second to think about that question and real life. Here's a couple of fun facts for you to ponder. A: it was a down hill grade, B: it was a curvy, narrow mountain road, on a down hill grade. C: finding a place on a 2 lane road to turn around a Class A with a toad on this type of road is not a high probability D: if you did turn around how fast would you have to drive to catch the offending drivers (note there was another rv right behind this one) E: If you did manage to catch up with driving like a maniac how would you get them to stop? D: What would you say to them and could you ask the question in a rational calm manner? I think you get my drift.
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Precisely the reason I have a dash cam. If things go to hell in a hand basket and we both go up in smoke, hopefully there will be evidence of what took place for our heirs.
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