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Old 06-05-2014, 05:48 PM   #15
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Are these aftermarket steering stabilization systems similar to the Newmar factory equipped "Comfort Drive"?
Absolutely not. It's like comparing small a fan to an air conditioner. Comfort Drive is much more effective (and expensive). And it must be built-in at the factory, cannot be added.
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Old 06-06-2014, 03:07 AM   #16
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I thought I would weigh in since I am the guy that bought everything for handling. Just a quick bit of background here. My coach porpoised and swayed too much, so I kept adding items to cure this.

Initially, bought bilsteins - very little help, maybe 20 percent
bought motion control units - little or no noticeable difference
bought new michelins - wow, now we are gettin somewhere
bought sway bars - meh, don't feel much difference - 20 percent?
bought road king shocks - wow!
bought blue ox tru-center - didn't change handling, but very cool to "hold" or "recenter" the steering wheel in wind. Nice gadget.

I think I just have a small issue with the chassis and spent way too much money chasing it. We are all friends here and I am not embarassed to admit it... maybe a little.

I retrospect, I would buy the tires and shocks again in a heartbeat, but nothing else in the list above. I will say that my coach, for not being a tag, holds a pretty darned straight line with minor winds (less than 30 mph), but I wish it stayed more upright on right turns. I guess I am just used to drivng sport sedans and don't like sway at all.
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Chassis? Is it a DP? Looks like it.

And, if not.....

If you have an F53 gasser, I put a Blue Ox trak bar on the rear axle and it helped 70%.
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The CHF "cheap handling fix" is for the Ford F53 chassis only. Appears the OP has a Freightliner chassis

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I looked up the specs for your motorhome, and it is on a Freightliner chassis. Assuming that it is similar to the one on my 2000 model Holiday Rambler, it will already have trac bars as standard equipment, so your bad handling should not be caused by side movement on the suspension.

Calculating your wheelbase to length ratio, it is 50.3% which may be contributing to the problem. Higher percentages normally indicate better handling.

I would start with individual wheel weights loaded for travel, and adjust tire pressure per the tire manufacturer's load charts. Next, I would go with a good wheel alignment. Be sure they check for loose suspension components.

My best improvement was adjustment of the steering gearbox to eliminate excessive play. I do not know if your later model has an adjustment on the steering gearbox.

The only addition I've made to mine is the Steer-Safe, and it did provide minor improvement by eliminating rut tracking. The coach drove very well before adding the Steer-Safe.

I hope you can find a solution. I can drive mine all day with no problem. It's as easy as the car to drive.

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I looked up the specs for your motorhome, and it is on a Freightliner chassis. Assuming that it is similar to the one on my 2000 model Holiday Rambler, it will already have trac bars as standard equipment, so your bad handling should not be caused by side movement on the suspension.

Calculating your wheelbase to length ratio, it is 50.3% which may be contributing to the problem. Higher percentages normally indicate better handling.

I would start with individual wheel weights loaded for travel, and adjust tire pressure per the tire manufacturer's load charts. Next, I would go with a good wheel alignment. Be sure they check for loose suspension components.

My best improvement was adjustment of the steering gearbox to eliminate excessive play. I do not know if your later model has an adjustment on the steering gearbox.

The only addition I've made to mine is the Steer-Safe, and it did provide minor improvement by eliminating rut tracking. The coach drove very well before adding the Steer-Safe.

I hope you can find a solution. I can drive mine all day with no problem. It's as easy as the car to drive.

Fred
Thank you for the useful response, also to the earlier people with their experience and suggestions. I'm in a better place regarding how to proceed. I await IMDSailor report on his install. Thanks all.
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Check out Henderson's Lineup website for lots of info and videos. These guys are specialists in solving motorhome handling issues. Henderson's Line-Up Brake & RV Inc.

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Thank you for the useful response, also to the earlier people with their experience and suggestions. I'm in a better place regarding how to proceed. I await IMDSailor report on his install. Thanks all.
The install was quite successful. If you choose to go this route and have it installed for you it shouldn't take 1hr. I did mine with manual tools and laying on my back in about 2. A shop that has a pit and pneumatic tools should be able to do it in considerably less time.
Please remember I did this mod to mitigate disaster in the event of a front end blow out, not because of any real handling problems, even in cross winds my rig handled them reasonably well. This will certainly help in stronger winds.
I have about 60 miles done with the unit installed. With the exception of some fine tuning to correct for road crown the unit seems to work as advertised.
It really is quite simple to install and the hardware supplied is of high quality. The two main bolts which are supplied are machined to extremely close tolerances.
Do your research and ask questions, as you are, but for me I like this one.
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We obviously have different chassis, but from what I've experienced the front sway bar and tire pressure have been the critical to how the coach handles. We didn't need a heavy duty sway bar since our sway bar allowed for the CHF adjustment. In your case, I would first install a front HD sway bar and then go from there. If you feel it needs more, then get a rear HD sway bar, then a steering stabilizer, and finally a rear trak bar.
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I had the steer safe also installed on my class a,freightlinr chassis.Drove like a completely different rig.I am well satisfied with the unit.It took 2 guys about 30 minutes to install mine

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I installed the SteerSafe stabilizers on my MH when we bought it in 2012. I did not install them because of steering problems, it was solid as a rock on the road. I installed them for added control in case of a blowout on the front tires.
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This post over on rv.net may have some interest for you.

RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Class A Motorhomes: WOW What a difference!

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As stated in other posts, I personally installed the SteerSafe system on my 2007 Allegro Open Road 35 TSA. Immediate improvement, plus a lifetime parts warranty! Took less than an hour with an electric impact gun.
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Has anyone had experience with installing some kind of steering stabilization equipment on their unit? After an hour I feel I've been wrestling a bear. I keep my speed at 60 mph.
Thanks in advance.
I have read many good reports about the Blue Ox TruCenter control. I was trying to find one for a "reasonable" price but the price is very consistent. I was talking with a fellow that I was volunteering with and he just happened to have one that would fit my coach. It was a factory replacement for another coach he had and had never installed it. I got it for $500. I bought the mounting kit through Amazon. It was not hard to install and wire.

Unfortunately we have not moved the coach since the install so I have no first hand info as to how well it works.

My reason for this upgrade is the way the coach handles in cross winds. We were at the Freightliner factory last year and had a chassis service performed and also had the weight check, height adjusted and alignment done. The tires are at the correct pressure but the coach still pulled in the wind. I hope this upgrade resolves this aggravation.

I had a Steer Safe unit on my first coach and had no issues with it. I don't recall how much of the road pull it compensated for.
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I have read many good reports about the Blue Ox TruCenter control. I was trying to find one for a "reasonable" price but the price is very consistent. I was talking with a fellow that I was volunteering with and he just happened to have one that would fit my coach. It was a factory replacement for another coach he had and had never installed it. I got it for $500. I bought the mounting kit through Amazon. It was not hard to install and wire.

Unfortunately we have not moved the coach since the install so I have no first hand info as to how well it works.

My reason for this upgrade is the way the coach handles in cross winds. We were at the Freightliner factory last year and had a chassis service performed and also had the weight check, height adjusted and alignment done. The tires are at the correct pressure but the coach still pulled in the wind. I hope this upgrade resolves this aggravation.

I had a Steer Safe unit on my first coach and had no issues with it. I don't recall how much of the road pull it compensated for.
I just bought a new TruCenter for 799 on ebay and the mounting brackets for 72 from Amazon.
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