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Old 02-08-2014, 11:53 AM   #29
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[QUOTE=ladagobago;1918394]As I said earlier, PUSHMATIC, but more telling is the date of the product and information on the label. (picture tells it all) You are looking for breakers that are almost 50, hear that, 50 years old.


What is wrong with something 50 years old. I would give up my store bought teeth to be able to go back to being 50 years old
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Old 02-08-2014, 03:46 PM   #30
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I would bet you have a ground fault. If your water heater is connected to this circuit, you probably have a bad heating element in the water heater. Disconnect the ground, neutral and ground from the water heater, make sure they are taped up and reset the breaker. If it holds, it is the heating element in the wtr heater. I have found this problem often.
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I would bet you have a ground fault. If your water heater is connected to this circuit, you probably have a bad heating element in the water heater. Disconnect the ground, neutral and ground from the water heater, make sure they are taped up and reset the breaker. If it holds, it is the heating element in the wtr heater. I have found this problem often.
I agree with the ground fault, but the OP said, it is tripping with out turning anything on. The fault will most likely before a switch.

Leaky heating elements are a common cause, but they must be on.
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The water heater does not have to be on. A ground fault occurs when any conductor goes to ground, the hot or neutral. If the element has been dry fired it will short to ground, therfore putting the neutral wire to ground. I have experienced this on many trailers where the customer is plugging their trailer into a gfci in their house.
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I also would suspect a failed breaker, but first I would swap circuits or breakers or at least disconnect the load side.
If it trips with load disconnected or with a different circuit, then the breaker is bad. If another circuit does not trip the breaker, it is a circuit problem.
My question would be, If it is a low fault in the circuit that is tripping the breaker, would it be enough to trip a normal breaker?
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A normal breaker will not trip if neutral to ground is shorted, but a gfci will. A normal breaker will only trip with a short between hot and neutral or hot and ground. I still say it is a defective heating element in the water heater.
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A normal breaker will not trip if neutral to ground is shorted, but a gfci will. A normal breaker will only trip with a short between hot and neutral or hot and ground. I still say it is a defective heating element in the water heater.

That is another easy one to check....just disconnect the heater element and see if the problem goes away.

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