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03-22-2015, 11:37 AM
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Stuck in garage
Just returned from a 4,200 mile trip out west including the Good Sam Ralley in Phoenix, on returning home I began to back my coach into the storage shed. About 2/3 of the way in I felt the coach begin to dip on the right rear, immediately stopped but we kept sinking, I was stuck and couldn't even get out the electric steps could not extend, called my dw out and she confirmed my fears we were definitely stuck inside the storage shed. Called Good Sam Roadside service, and they sent a wrecker out. Meantime a friend was called and he came over and dug a space for the steps so I could exit. Wrecker arrived after three hours and we promptly decided that towing was out of the question. Coach was resting on the frame, and basement doors along with the rear Trailer receivers. GS agreed to pay for 2 hours labor. Regular Ins. Co said that they would pay recovery costs if coach was damaged, well duh, 2-man crew worked for 6 hours over 2 days to dig and jack coach until we could hook wrecker to front with anchor to tree and get out, now will have to get adjuster out to look at damages.
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03-22-2015, 11:41 AM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Good to hear your out, no photo op?
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03-22-2015, 11:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tom076
Just returned from a 4,200 mile trip out west including the Good Sam Ralley in Phoenix, on returning home I began to back my coach into the storage shed. About 2/3 of the way in I felt the coach begin to dip on the right rear, immediately stopped but we kept sinking, I was stuck and couldn't even get out the electric steps could not extend, called my dw out and she confirmed my fears we were definitely stuck inside the storage shed. Called Good Sam Roadside service, and they sent a wrecker out. Meantime a friend was called and he came over and dug a space for the steps so I could exit. Wrecker arrived after three hours and we promptly decided that towing was out of the question. Coach was resting on the frame, and basement doors along with the rear Trailer receivers. GS agreed to pay for 2 hours labor. Regular Ins. Co said that they would pay recovery costs if coach was damaged, well duh, 2-man crew worked for 6 hours over 2 days to dig and jack coach until we could hook wrecker to front with anchor to tree and get out, now will have to get adjuster out to look at damages.
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WOW ...Was this fresh soil/new construction?.......sounds like time for concrete I hope there is no damage....
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03-22-2015, 11:51 AM
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Yeah we had the area cleared in Sep 14 and erected the shed then, 6 in gravel but we had 5 inches of rain while we were gone and evidently water migrated to the disturbed area and although not obvious on top soaked the under area, damages appear minor, bent tow receiver, three right side basement doors and scratched side, one hydralic jack appears stuck. Tow Co charges a little over $1,500.
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03-22-2015, 05:49 PM
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Sounds like quick sand.
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03-22-2015, 05:56 PM
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Sorry about the issues. New construction is always problematic. Drainage and compaction are a must. 5" of crushed gravel on a firmly packed base should have done the job.
If you put concrete down you have to think about removing the gravel and drying and packing the base before replacing the gravel and then concrete.
Any pictures would be of interest.
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03-22-2015, 07:15 PM
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Tom, you should call the contractor back and have him fix things. Sounds like it wasn't properly compacted prior to the 6" of stone.
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03-22-2015, 08:05 PM
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The base must be higher than surrounding soil, or you will have drainage problems. I specified my floor must be at least 6" higher than surrounding property, and a drainage tile be placed under the gravel base to prevent water pooling under the garage.
I have a wire mesh and rebar reinforced 4" conctrete floor in the garage, that in 4 years has not shown any signs of sinking, or moving. It does have some normal spider cracks that all concrete floor display.
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03-22-2015, 08:28 PM
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Damon Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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not laughing
been there done that, sank my parents new to them bounder in my yard
the first day i brought it home for them......
glad to hear not to much damage
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03-22-2015, 08:43 PM
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Do you live in the south? I'm from Alabama and I've had to have gravel hauled to my storage barn once this year due to all of the rain we've had. Heck it's raining as I type this and I'm about sick of it.
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03-23-2015, 10:11 PM
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Stuck in garage
I have photos but for some reason can' seem to import them, will keep trying, yes we are in the south and yes it rained extensively while we were traveling. Water migrated from upstream ground into the garage, The original land was not very stable, wooded area cleared, stumped, then stump holes filled and leveled, only compaction was from dozer operating on the site. Crushed stone brought in and placed on top of non compacted soil then leveled again with dozer, I parked the coach on the gravel for 5 1/2 months before trip with no problems but that was prior to the storms that occurred while I was gone, will have to remove wet material and replace with new rock, compacted and then have concrete poured. I think that 6 " of cement on top of 6 to 8 inches of rock. Intend to have contractor embed rebar on concrete. Any other suggestions?
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03-24-2015, 07:29 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Sounds like a ground water issue. It should never have gotten that saturated inside the garage from surface water, unless your drainage allows water to funnel into it. Is the garage on a hillside or slope? If it is, you may need to put in a french drain on the high side to stop the water from migrating under your garage. It could require some excavation before re-compaction, depending on the type of soil under you gravel
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03-24-2015, 09:16 AM
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Was the first work permitted?
Please work with your local building department to insure proper engineering.
I would not think your build would be suitable for your use in your area.
Meaning packed gravel in a dirt lot in a wet area with concentrated wheel loads.
You may need to have some footings down to below loose area or other such things but that would depend on what the engineer determines.
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03-24-2015, 10:31 AM
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Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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I think I woud re-do the garage floor.
Perhaps 12" of steel reinforced concrete.
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