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Old 11-29-2013, 11:44 AM   #1
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Surge Guard portable surge protector

I am looking into purchasing the Surge Guard 50 amp portable surge guard. Does anyone have any experience with this product? I periodically will hook into 30 amp shore power. Will the 50 amp surge protector function in when operating off a 30 circuit?
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I've had one for several years and has always worked as advertised. Last year, while at an rv park, we experienced some lightning strikes nearby and the neighbors on both sides of me had some appliances burned out when a power pole got a direct hit. My Surge Guard shut down immediately without causing any damage to my mh.

Yes, it will work when plugged into 30 amp outlet...just need the dogbone to reduce 50 amp connector down to the 30.

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Old 11-29-2013, 11:57 AM   #3
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Have you looked at the Progressive model? My research led me this way. I converted when my prior unit flaked-out (not a SurgeGuard). \ken

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Old 11-29-2013, 12:01 PM   #4
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Have you looked at the Progressive model? My research led me this way. I converted when my prior unit flaked-out (not a SurgeGuard). \ken Progressive Industries EMSPT50C Surge Protector : Amazon.com : Automotive
Yes, the PI 50a will work fine with a dogbone adapter. And PI has a lifetime warranty, even if it fries. And the EMS models will save you from over/under voltage.
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Your hard earned money would be better spent going towards the purchase of the 50 amp Progressive Industries HW-50C EMS System versus the TRC 50 amp unit.

It will also work on 30 amp, 20 amp and 15 amp power sources.

The best price to buy it recently is here at $297.

Progressive Electrical Management System, Hardwire 50A/240V EMS-HW50C

GREAT customer service and a LIFETIME warranty. You won't find that with the TRC unit.

Trust me, you won't be sorry or disappointed.

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Old 11-29-2013, 12:12 PM   #6
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Best price I found when I bought mine was here: Tweetys.com - RV Parts & Accessories - RV Hitches - Search
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My coach came with the Surge Guard 50A hard wired but I will be switching to the Progressive Industries HW-50C EMS System it is hands down better than the Surge Guard. I installed (hard wired) the Progressive Industries HW-30C EMS System with remote in my 03 Alpenlite 5er. It will give you a readout of your electrical system all the time. The remote is a great tool also.
The price Dr4Film ----- Richard gave is a great deal on the hard wired unit with the remote.
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My coach came with the Surge Guard 50A hard wired but I will be switching to the Progressive Industries HW-50C EMS System it is hands down better than the Surge Guard.
And you know this how?

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I installed (hard wired) the Progressive Industries HW-30C EMS System with remote in my 03 Alpenlite 5er. It will give you a readout of your electrical system all the time. The remote is a great tool also.
I've installed both the hardwired EMS HW-50C and the Surge Guard 40240.

Both units should work just fine. Progressive's lifetime warranty is a definite plus, but Surge Guard has better (i.e., easier to read) remotes.
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And you know this how?

I've installed both the hardwired EMS HW-50C and the Surge Guard 40240.

Both units should work just fine. Progressive's lifetime warranty is a definite plus, but Surge Guard has better (i.e., easier to read) remotes.

Here's my take on answering your first question.

When your TRC unit fails, you have to remove the entire unit and send it into TRC. The Progressive Industries unit is modular and usually you only need to swap out a circuit board to get back in business. No need to remove the entire unit.

Call TRC and ask what their units response time is for any fault especially for a dropped neutral which can do the most damage in an instant. They should be able to tell you in how many nanoseconds.

The TRC unit has a one year warranty only for the person who originally bought the product. The Progressive Industries units are warranted for the life of the unit no matter who owns the RV.

Part 2.

I have never had a problem reading the RED LED display anytime anywhere. It displays all parameters in English unless it throws an error CODE. I simply look at the small error code card mounted next to the display which tells me what the power problem is or was.

That cannot be the BIGGEST selling point for the TRC unit. I would certainly hope that they have something really GREAT other than the display to sway people into buying their products OVER buying the Progressive Industries units.

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And you know this how?


I've installed both the hardwired EMS HW-50C and the Surge Guard 40240.

Both units should work just fine. Progressive's lifetime warranty is a definite plus, but Surge Guard has better (i.e., easier to read) remotes.
I have not seen that system before and that is not the one that I have, that is the reason I said what I did. When you do Apples to Apples you are right.
Here is one at an OK price but still $90 more.
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We had the plug in 30AMP surge guard with our previous TT. With our current unit I opted for the hard wired 50ASMP Surge Guard, less hassle, less chance of theft, just plug n and forget.
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Old 11-29-2013, 07:42 PM   #12
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We have the Progressive portable EMS 50 amp. Works fine and their customer service and warranty are excellent.
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When your TRC unit fails, you have to remove the entire unit and send it into TRC. The Progressive Industries unit is modular and usually you only need to swap out a circuit board to get back in business. No need to remove the entire unit.
When I had to send a circuit board back on my EMS-HW50C, I still had to remove the unit from the electrical compartment to get at the board.

Since both units would be inoperative, does it really matter if you have to send back the whole unit or part of it? Postage maybe, but this is not really a deal breaker for me.


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Call TRC and ask what their units response time is for any fault especially for a dropped neutral which can do the most damage in an instant. They should be able to tell you in how many nanoseconds.
Ok I'll call.

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The TRC unit has a one year warranty only for the person who originally bought the product. The Progressive Industries units are warranted for the life of the unit no matter who owns the RV.
Maybe there's a reason for that lifetime warranty. After my EMS-HW50C failed twice, I switched to a Surge Guard which worked right out of the box.


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I have never had a problem reading the RED LED display anytime anywhere. It displays all parameters in English unless it throws an error CODE. I simply look at the small error code card mounted next to the display which tells me what the power problem is or was.
Good for you. But I prefer English instead of "E3".


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That cannot be the BIGGEST selling point for the TRC unit. I would certainly hope that they have something really GREAT other than the display to sway people into buying their products OVER buying the Progressive Industries units.
My Surge Guard worked right out of the box. My Progressive unit failed twice. How's that?

But maybe I should buy the Samsung unit, eh?
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When I had to send a circuit board back on my EMS-HW50C, I still had to remove the unit from the electrical compartment to get at the board.

Since both units would be inoperative, does it really matter if you have to send back the whole unit or part of it? Postage maybe, but this is not really a deal breaker for me.

I guess it all depends on where one chooses to locate their EMS unit. Some people may not have much of a choice whereas others have very easy access to their EMS unit. Again, each person is different and makes decisions that are best for them.


Ok I'll call.

Good luck in getting a logical answer other than, "you won't have ANY problems".


Maybe there's a reason for that lifetime warranty. After my EMS-HW50C failed twice, I switched to a Surge Guard which worked right out of the box.

Your choice, your money!


Good for you. But I prefer English instead of "E3".

Like I stated in my post, the display is in ENGLISH.


My Surge Guard worked right out of the box. My Progressive unit failed twice. How's that?

My Progressive Industries HW-50C has worked from the very FIRST day I installed the unit. It hasn't failed me once and gets used everyday as the RV is my home.

I guess you are just one of those few unlucky ones!



But maybe I should buy the Samsung unit, eh?

A little off topic wouldn't you say? But again it's your RV and your money to do as you please.

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